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01 Mar 22
01 Mar 22
@athousandyoung saidIn a conventional war? Pretty much useless.
How much of a factor is the average guy in Ukraine fighting with his own weapons?
01 Mar 22
@athousandyoung saidAlone? Not much.
How much of a factor is the average guy in Ukraine fighting with his own weapons?
With others? Thousands of others, as in the Revolutionary War in America? It could be decisive, if not in the outcome, but perhaps others will hear the statement being made, and rise up in numbers sufficient to turn the tide.
01 Mar 22
@mott-the-hoople saidI "asked" this guy:
LOL…ask putin
"To place any dependance upon Militia, is, assuredly, resting upon a broken staff. Men just dragged from the tender Scenes of domestick life—unaccustomed to the din of Arms—totally unacquainted with every kind of Military skill, which being followed by a want of Confidence in themselves when opposed to Troops regularly traind—disciplined, and appointed—superior in knowledge, & superior in Arms, makes them timid, and ready to fly from their own Shadows. Besides, the sudden change in their manner of living (particularly in the lodging) brings on sickness in many; impatience in all; & such an unconquerable desire of returning to their respective homes that it not only produces shameful, & scandalous Desertions among themselves, but infuses the like spirit in others—Again, Men accustomed to unbounded freedom, and no controul, cannot brooke the Restraint which is indispensably necessary to the good Order and Government of an Army; without which Licentiousness, & every kind of disorder triumphantly reign. To bring men to a proper degree of Subordination is not the work of a day—a Month— or even a year—and unhappily for us, and the cause we are Ingaged in, the little discipline I have been labouring to establish in the Army under my immediate Command, is in a manner done away by having such a mixture of Troops as have been called together within these few Months."
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/03-06-02-0305
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01 Mar 22
@no1marauder saidthat guy is not invading Ukraine.
I "asked" this guy:
"To place any dependance upon Militia, is, assuredly, resting upon a broken staff. Men just dragged from the tender Scenes of domestick life—unaccustomed to the din of Arms—totally unacquainted with every kind of Military skill, which being followed by a want of Confidence in themselves when opposed to Troops regularly traind—disciplined, and ...[text shortened]... gether within these few Months."
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/03-06-02-0305
Viet Nam was a good case in study on this very topic. The US lost.
@mott-the-hoople saidThe US didn't fight "militias" in Vietnam nor was that war "conventional" until the final stages.
that guy is not invading Ukraine.
Viet Nam was a good case in study on this very topic. The US lost.
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@no1marauder saidliterally stupid to think viet nam wasnt a conventional war. who in the hell do you think was in the tunnels? local militias thats who
The US didn't fight "militias" in Vietnam nor was that war "conventional" until the final stages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_People%27s_Armed_Forces
01 Mar 22
@mott-the-hoople saidCorrect.
that guy is not invading Ukraine.
Viet Nam was a good case in study on this very topic. The US lost.
The Viet Cong, aka the militias, won. Good point
01 Mar 22
@mott-the-hoople saidSad to say, right wingers on this site are too dumb to know what a "conventional war" or a "militia" is.
literally stupid to think viet nam wasnt a conventional war. who in the hell do you think was in the tunnels? local militias thats who
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_People%27s_Armed_Forces
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I am an exception.
To learn from the American experience in Vietnam one must understand the nature of the war that was fought there. At no time was it a conventional war; from beginning to end it was a people's or revolutionary war in which both irregular and conventional forces played important roles.
Hybrid War I guess 🤷
https://discover.wooster.edu/jgates/peoples-war-in-vietnam/
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02 Mar 22
@no1marauder saidsad to say I gave you are prime example with Viet Nam but you are not man enough to admit it.
Sad to say, right wingers on this site are too dumb to know what a "conventional war" or a "militia" is.
@mott-the-hoople saidYou are too stubbornly ignorant to realize that Viet Nam was not a "conventional war" (until the end) and the VC were certainly not a "militia".
sad to say I gave you are prime example with Viet Nam but you are not man enough to admit it.
I'd suggest a dictionary for you, but I'm sure you're too stupid to use one correctly.
EDIT: Here maybe there's a child in your house who can explain this to you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/militia