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  1. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    26 Jun '11 03:37 / 1 edit
    http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/23/she-was-a-modern-day-slave-in-the-u-s-at-9/?hpt=hp_c2

    Captured at the age of 9 and forced into servitude here, only escaped 9 years later.

    Sad story.

    Demi Moore working with slave busters in Nepal:

    http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cnn.com/
  2. 26 Jun '11 04:38
    we can help to reduce it by decriminalizing prostitution.
  3. 26 Jun '11 04:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    we can help to reduce it by decriminalizing prostitution.
    Why not decriminalize slavery?

    We could set up a government panel to decide a "fair" wage for a slave and monitor living conditions to see that they measure up. Then we could then tax slave owners which could help bring in much needed revenue for the government!! This would end all of the back alley slave owners out there.

    In short, we could tax slave owners like smokers. Sure, we know its bad but lets make it safer and make a buck or two!!
  4. 26 Jun '11 04:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why not decriminalize slavery?
    property is unethical and must be abolished eventually.
  5. 26 Jun '11 04:52
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    property is unethical and must be abolished eventually.
    Why not just decriminilize property and have the governmet regulate it.....hey!! That's what going on now.

    Then again, isn't a prostitute property? Aren't drugs property?

    This could start a backlash on the left ya know.
  6. 26 Jun '11 05:01
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why not just decriminilize property and have the governmet regulate it.....hey!! That's what going on now.

    Then again, isn't a prostitute property? Aren't drugs property?

    This could start a backlash on the left ya know.
    wow, let's keep the fallacies under control, shall we?

    prostitution and drugs aren't property. the first is a service, the latter a resource. once property is abolished, i don't know what would be the fate of prostitution. there may just be no place for it anymore since women wouldn't need to sell the use of their bodies in order to pay rent or acquire food.

    i really don't care what happens in the left, right or center. it's all just a distraction.
  7. 26 Jun '11 05:04
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    [b]wow, let's keep the fallacies under control, shall we?

    prostitution and drugs aren't property. the first is a service, the latter a resource.
    Prostitutes are not property? Ever heard of a "pimp"? Even where prostitution is legalized you have them.

    In addition, why are drugs a "resource" but land is not?
  8. 26 Jun '11 05:11
    Originally posted by whodey
    Prostitutes are not property? Ever heard of a "pimp"? Even where prostitution is legalized you have them.

    In addition, why are drugs a "resource" but land is not?
    prostitution is not property. prostitutes may or may not be property. they may or may not be employees in a capitalist economy. if they have a choice to leave, they are not property. if they are slaves and cannot leave, then they are property. of course one can argue that all employees are also slaves and ergo property of either their employers or the government, but that's a separate discussion.

    "In addition, why are drugs a "resource" but land is not?"

    drugs and land are resources.
  9. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    26 Jun '11 06:20 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why not just decriminilize property and have the governmet regulate it.....hey!! That's what going on now.

    Then again, isn't a prostitute property? Aren't drugs property?

    This could start a backlash on the left ya know.
    Yeah, that's the ticket, we can North Koreaise the entire planet. Then only the top government officials will have the best of everything and everyone else will starve. Sure, that could work. Just like in Ancient Egypt, except worse.
  10. Standard member spruce112358
    Democracy Advocate
    26 Jun '11 06:23
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    prostitution is not property. prostitutes may or may not be property. they may or may not be employees in a capitalist economy. if they have a choice to leave, they are not property. if they are slaves and cannot leave, then they are property. of course one can argue that all employees are also slaves and ergo property of either their employer ...[text shortened]... "In addition, why are drugs a "resource" but land is not?"

    drugs and land are resources.
    Drugs are manufactured. They are not a resource.
  11. 26 Jun '11 06:33
    Oh BS on the title "Slavery in the USA', this was some bizarre personal thing going on between some abusive criminals and a child they got their hands on, it happens everywhere in the world, it's not like it only happens in "The USA" or that it's somehow legally sanctioned, these people were criminals and what they did was illegal so WTF do you want to do?
    I know, let's not just make what they did against the law but make it Supar Against teh Law. Put them on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION.

    Better yet just outlaw all criminality, that'll fix thngs.
  12. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    26 Jun '11 06:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    Oh BS on the title "Slavery in the USA', this was some bizarre personal thing going on between some abusive criminals and a child they got their hands on, it happens everywhere in the world, it's not like it only happens in "The USA" or that it's somehow legally sanctioned...
    I think the point of the title is that it ALSO happens in the USA which has a modicum of Man Eats Dog about it seeing as a lot of Americans probably think it happens everywhere ELSE in the world and not on their own doorstep.
  13. 26 Jun '11 06:46
    Originally posted by FMF
    I think the point of the title is that it ALSO happens in the USA which has a modicum of Man Eats Dog about it seeing as a lot of Americans probably think it happens everywhere ELSE in the world and not on their own doorstep.
    With a population of 320 million, EVERYTHING under the sun happens in the USA, just like everywhere else.

    I suppose America should be held to some bizarre perfect Garden Of Eden standard where nothing ever goes wrong and if it does well, goddamnit America must be some kind of awful.

    Not like the rest of the planet, where everything is wonderful and no one is ever hurt.
  14. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    26 Jun '11 06:56
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    I suppose America should be held to some bizarre perfect Garden Of Eden standard where nothing ever goes wrong and if it does well, goddamnit America must be some kind of awful. Not like the rest of the planet, where everything is wonderful and no one is ever hurt.
    How odd that you should be somehow inferring all this from the story in the OP. You are probably trying to come off as proud and pragmatic, but you just sound defensive and a bit xenophobic.
  15. 26 Jun '11 11:51
    Originally posted by FMF
    How odd that you should be somehow inferring all this from the story in the OP. You are probably trying to come off as proud and pragmatic, but you just sound defensive and a bit xenophobic.
    How odd it is that you should be inferring all that from his post.