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Is gaining the moral high ground worth losing a war?

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Nope, because he who wins writes the history books. Even if you were in the right, few will know let alone care.

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Originally posted by HumeA
Is gaining the moral high ground worth losing a war?
Depends what the consequence of "losing a war" is. If it's the Iraq war which is predicated on greed and trickery and the consequence of losing that war is allowing people to have their country back, then yes.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Depends what the consequence of "losing a war" is. If it's the Iraq war which is predicated on greed and trickery and the consequence of losing that war is allowing people to have their country back, then yes.
What if losing the Iraq war results in a more powerful base for Islamo-fascism?

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Originally posted by HumeA
What if losing the Iraq war results in a more powerful base for Islamo-fascism?
Oh, what IF?

This what if scenario in particular is nonsense propoganda. I wouldn't make any decisions based on an outrageous hypothetical.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Oh, what IF?

This what if scenario in particular is nonsense propoganda. I wouldn't make any decisions based on an outrageous hypothetical.
You don't need to make any decisions. This is , in it's very nature, a hypothetical thread.

The question: Is gaining the moral high ground worth losing a war?
Your answer: It depends.

So in your view there are no absolutes. So would you be in favour of the Israeli intervention in Lebannon?

If it 'depends', is there any way you would ever be able to from, in your mind, a correct opinion on any world issue?

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Originally posted by darvlay

This what if scenario in particular is nonsense propoganda.
How can you disregard one statement, naming it nonsense properganda, while implying and equally tenuous view?

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Originally posted by HumeA
Is gaining the moral high ground worth losing a war?
It depends on the morals your using to judge I suppose, but history is nearly always writtern by the winners

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Originally posted by HumeA
Is gaining the moral high ground worth losing a war?
You'd first have to establish that you can make war without losing the moral high ground.

The fact is that in war, morals fly out the window faster than a lit firework. In the end in conflict there can be no moral 'right and wrong', both sides are doing their jolly well best to kill each other as quickly as possible.

Popular history tends to be written by the winners. We all know if the Nazi concentration camps, but surprisingly few know of Kitchener's concentration camps used in the Boer War. It was not uncommon for American soldiers to shoot Japanese soldiers who surrendered in the Pacific theatre of World War II.

This is the reason we have such bodies as the United Nations and the Internation War Crimes Tribunal, to try to impose some form of accountability on those who fight. If we take a recent example, the killing of thirty-seven children by one bomb in Qana in the current Isreali-Lebanese war, we see that the Isrealis have een accused by the Lebanese of a war crime. However, the Isrealis will win this war, that much is obvious, and you can bet that no one on their side will face prosecution in either a civil or military court.

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Originally posted by HumeA
Is gaining the moral high ground worth losing a war?
Would you rape your grandmother to win a war?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Would you rape your grandmother to win a war?
Would you ?