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Barry Walters, an obstetrics professor with the government-funded University of Western Australia proposes that parents who have more than two children should be charged a lifelong climate change tax to offset the effect of their extra greenhouse gas. I propose that those who want to thin the human population start with themselves. Discuss.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdHCdZZ8MLEj4aBjDsvAsEp5bStA

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Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.

In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).

Can you calculate that growth rate?

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Originally posted by mdhall
Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.

In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).

Can you calculate that growth rate?
I think you should go second.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I think you should go second.
Despite being intelligent (I'm assuming) you tend to argue at an 8th grade level.

Getting rid of me isn't going to solve your problem of being consistently trounced by any educated adult.

Did you just give up on math or is it genetic?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Barry Walters, an obstetrics professor with the government-funded University of Western Australia proposes that parents who have more than two children should be charged a lifelong climate change tax to offset the effect of their extra greenhouse gas. I propose that those who want to thin the human population start with themselves. Discuss.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdHCdZZ8MLEj4aBjDsvAsEp5bStA
There are a bunch of "ideas" that get pushed forward even though they have no chance of actually happening. The idea is to get people to think about the issue so that maybe they'll act a little different than they currently are.

There will be no lifetime tax.

My provincial government right now is discussing a ban on smoking in cars when children are in the car. We all know it'll never happen but the idea is to get people who do smoke with their kids in the car to stop and think about whether or not it's the right thing to do. Sometimes you have to shock people with crazy ideas in order for them to pay attention.

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Originally posted by mdhall
Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.

In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).

Can you calculate that growth rate?
We also wear nicer clothes, eat better, have longer lives and retire to Florida. What's your point?

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Originally posted by mdhall
Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.

In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).

Can you calculate that growth rate?
What's the growth rate of orange trees in the same time frame?

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Originally posted by mdhall
Given your inability to comprehend simple mathematical realities, there's not much discussion available.

In 2000 years we have grown from 300 million to 6 billion (in 1999).

Can you calculate that growth rate?
We've seen this on a smaller scale with various Pacific islands in the past. They build a prosperous civilization, their population grows, they exhaust the resources of their island, and then their population would crash dramatically. Then the survivors would flee to different islands.

We're seeing that happen now on a planetwide scale. Except we have no other planets to flee to.

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Originally posted by rwingett
We've seen this on a smaller scale with various Pacific islands in the past. They build a prosperous civilization, their population grows, they exhaust the resources of their island, and then their population would crash dramatically. Then the survivors would flee to different islands.

We're seeing that happen now on a planetwide scale. Except we have no other planets to flee to.
Really, where are we seeing Americans flee to? Russias and Europes populations are certainly not experienceing explosive growth? The major growth areas seems to be fairly limited.

Is America out of resources? Africa? Asia?

I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine we grow plenty of food and plenty of trees.

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Originally posted by Merk
Really, where are we seeing Americans flee to? Russias and Europes populations are certainly not experienceing explosive growth? The major growth areas seems to be fairly limited.

Is America out of resources? Africa? Asia?

I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine we grow plenty of food and plenty of trees.
I thought you suburbanite sheep had a leash law.
Does your wife/mom know you're arguing online again?

Seriously though, your head-in-the-sand style of posting makes me want to vomit all over your chem-lawn mindset.

"Everything looks great on my upper-middle-class street, and since that's all I ever see, then I am sure the rest of the world is fine too".

You're a dolt if you cannot put two and two together and see that Humanity is facing a serious resource crunch in the near future and it's got absolutely jack to do with fixation on the United States joke of a bipartisan system.

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Originally posted by mdhall
I thought you suburbanite sheep had a leash law.
Does your wife/mom know you're arguing online again?

Seriously though, your head-in-the-sand style of posting makes me want to vomit all over your chem-lawn mindset.

"Everything looks great on my upper-middle-class street, and since that's all I ever see, then I am sure the rest of the world is fine too" got absolutely jack to do with fixation on the United States joke of a bipartisan system.
They're like monkeys putting their hands into a narrow bottle filled with nuts. Seeing hunters coming and finding the bottle is actually fixed to the ground, their greed renders them incapable of escaping - rather than opening their hands and making their getaway, they instead get caught ... screeching in fear yet still greedily clutching that which lead to their capture/death.

In the not too distant future, this insatiable greed that too many people unfortunately exhibit is going to lead to all sorts of problems ...

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Barry Walters, an obstetrics professor with the government-funded University of Western Australia proposes that parents who have more than two children should be charged a lifelong climate change tax to offset the effect of their extra greenhouse gas. I propose that those who want to thin the human population start with themselves. Discuss.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdHCdZZ8MLEj4aBjDsvAsEp5bStA
Surely the tax should only last as long as you have more than two children. If one of the three gets hit by a bus, do you have to continue to pay?

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Should there be a carbon tax on baked beans?

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Originally posted by Iron Monkey
Should there be a carbon tax on baked beans?
methane tax

(And there should probably be one on sheep).

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Originally posted by rwingett
We've seen this on a smaller scale with various Pacific islands in the past. They build a prosperous civilization, their population grows, they exhaust the resources of their island, and then their population would crash dramatically. Then the survivors would flee to different islands.

We're seeing that happen now on a planetwide scale. Except we have no other planets to flee to.
If you honestly think that the earth is anywhere near reaching its maximum sustainable human population then you haven't traveled very much, probably haven't looked at an atlas or even watched tv too much. There are vast areas of the earths land surface still un-cultivated and don't forget that the sea covers more surface than land. My home country of Zambia could quite comfortably hold 20 times its current population even with current farming methods. If the methods used in the US were imported that figure would rise significantly.