More Government Corruption

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
No, since this is allowed within the system. In fact, isn't that the whole point of using the constituency type of representation?

It is used so you have representation for your state, not bribe for vote.

Originally posted by torch71
It is used so you have representation for your state, not bribe for vote.

I understand that you want to have a system where every representative is a pure soul who considers ONLY the relative merits of a given bill and votes accordingly. Who would never consider use their vote to get more goodies for their own district. Who would never allow their vote to be influenced by campaign donations. Who would never think of using their time in Washington to land a big-paying job as a lobbyist once their term in office expires. Who would never do something just because their party wants them to.

I feel your pain. I would love to see the same thing.

If you know of 536 future saints who'd be interested in a job in Congress, and if you know of a way of getting all of these folks elected, then please get on with it!!

Originally posted by torch71
It is used so you have representation for your state, not bribe for vote.

But there is no bribe here. Just a negotiation.

Originally posted by sh76
You're thinking of things from a small country perspective. It's all well and good for all reps in The Netherlands to represent the country, because the country is tiny.

In the US, you can't expect one person to know what's best for Nashua, NH, Provo, UT and Las Vegas, NV. You need local governments and local representation in the national government.

Wou ...[text shortened]... ual member countries that has power over all the day to day rules of each country's people?

You misunderstand me. I'm not saying there shouldn't be any state government. I'm just saying that those who govern at the national level should be elected at the national level. People would still be free to vote for the "Nebraska People's Party" or whatever. Matters that concern only the local government can be handled just fine by the local government.

And yes, I would want an EU government that is not based on elections in individual countries. A random German citizen should have just as much influence as a random Frenchman or Maltese.

Originally posted by torch71
Look you can say what you wish, you have that right. There were more states hit with natural disasters tha just Louisiana.

Congress has drilled Bremer on the 12 billion yes with a "B".

Congress together voted on the Iraq war.

Reid alone popped off 100 million which could be 300 million for just one lousy vote. and it has everything to do with the re ...[text shortened]... t bumps 1 trillion more dollars. Yes kiddie that is with a "T".

By the way I wear boxers.

That doesn't make any sense. Congress will vote on this appropriation also - what is your point? You've apparently been so indoctrinated with the Radical Republic way of just robbing the treasury thru the back door that real actual government with negotiations and comprise sounds like corruption to you. Again, the purpose of representative government is for the representative to negotiate to meet the needs of their citizens. In fact that that doesn't include pallets of currency shipped half-way around the world to be handed out without supervision. Again - what trillion dollars are you talking about - the 1.5 trillion spent so far for the Iraq War? The War that was supposed to pay for itself (at least according to the liars who took a budget surplus and turned it into a huge deficit?) Or the trillion that the Bush tax cuts turned over to the wealthiest 1%? As a citizen myself - I couldn't find a better enemy than you. Break the treasury for thieves but slam the doors shut for the suffering!

Originally posted by TerrierJack
That doesn't make any sense. Congress will vote on this appropriation also - what is your point? You've apparently been so indoctrinated with the Radical Republic way of just robbing the treasury thru the back door that real actual government with negotiations and comprise sounds like corruption to you. Again, the purpose of representative government i ...[text shortened]... er enemy than you. Break the treasury for thieves but slam the doors shut for the suffering!

It does make sense, congress is voting for national healthcare and the sweetner for the Louisiana is just a small part. Going to war in Iraq was the enchalada so to speak, if you can't understand that you are as dense as your posts. Iraq was not just slipped under the rug through a Bill with an agenda in a completely different direction. What on earth does devastation in Louisiana even have to do with healthcare.

Also before you speak as if you know me to call me the enemy, read back through a few of my posts. I have consistently said Repubs. and Dems. alike are liars and thieves. Now where did you see my radical republic way in this thread?

As far as the poor suffering people from Louisiana I do feel for many of them that are old and retired and living off of S.S. That being said there are funds pumped into that and other surrounding states for aid and they are tying it up and not helping thier people so maybe you should call the Senater a thief and liar.

So no problems from you on the stimulis favors for banks I see, only Goerge W and his admin. You are as one sided as a 2 headed coin.

Originally posted by torch71
It does make sense, congress is voting for national healthcare and the sweetner for the Louisiana is just a small part. Going to war in Iraq was the enchalada so to speak, if you can't understand that you are as dense as your posts. Iraq was not just slipped under the rug through a Bill with an agenda in a completely different direction. What on earth does d ...[text shortened]... s favors for banks I see, only Goerge W and his admin. You are as one sided as a 2 headed coin.

As well as I don't know you - you don't know me - I am far from a fan of bailouts (begun under Bush BTW.) The war was a boondoggle because Bush lied to congress to get that vote. You really need to learn to distinguish between negotiation and corruption. Corruption is the insurance companies giving to a representative of the people in order to directly affect the outcome of legislation - it is not a representative negotiating a deal to benefit their constituents - that is their job! Buy a vowel! It is not corruption when a representative votes to spend money (you show your Radical Republic bias there) - it is corruption when that vote is purchased by a narrow interest. I fully agree with you that narrow interests are robbing the country but Sen. Landrieu getting more Medicaid money for her people is not a narrow interest - it is the kind of thing she should be doing rather than looking out for the interests of the insurance companies that contribute to her campaigns. Have you forgotten who "your" people are?