More lopsidedly strong Democratic performances yesterday

@KingDavid403 said
You think a current Dem politician could support tough welfare reform or the "Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act" today and live to tell about it?

Hillary Clinton would and could have. She had much experience also as our "Department of War" leader; and being our first lady for eight years. Much more experience than our current child-molester and lawless liar and thief in office; whom she lost too.

I wonder if any of these Trump apologists could even conceptualize just how much this country would be better off today had Hillary won in 2016.

@sh76 said
Ha! So that's the party line you're going to use as an excuse when they primary Fetterman?

Nope, it'll be the same old reason why Dems get ejected by the voters. Voting along with the Republican Party.

@no1marauder said
Obama was still saying he believed marriage was exclusively between a man and a woman until years after the 2008 election.

I'm not sure progressives now are any further to the Left than the ones I watched on C-SPAN in the House when I was going to college in the 1980s - the Dellums, Downey, Holtzman, etc. wing of the party. But neither than nor now do progressives control the Democratic party.

This is true in all respects.

The Democratic Party is not a party of radicals. I doubt it ever really was.

@wildgrass said
From what I can gather, Fetterman is a no name politician with a scarce legislative record and a weird policy agenda. But you think if the Democrats don't nominate him for president then that proves they are radical leftists?

Correct me if I'm wrong I'm summarizing your argument.

===But you think if the Democrats don't nominate him for president then that proves they are radical leftists===

-sigh-

For such a smart guy, you're being oddly thick on this exchange.

I said "primary" him, as in knock him out in the primary process in the PA Senate race and deny him the Dem nomination for Senate re-election, not the Presidential race.

Obviously, I wouldn't expect someone like Fetterman to be nominated in the presidential race.

@sh76 said
===But you think if the Democrats don't nominate him for president then that proves they are radical leftists===

-sigh-

For such a smart guy, you're being oddly thick on this exchange.

I said "primary" him, as in knock him out in the primary process in the PA Senate race and deny him the Dem nomination for Senate re-election, not the Presidential race.

Obviously, I wouldn't expect someone like Fetterman to be nominated in the presidential race.

Ok that clarifies things, I think your Fetterman reference was related to our conversation about the popularity of Bill Clinton's policies today, so I was confused.

Don't they just pick the candidate who gets more votes and is most likely to win in the general election? I'm now confused why you think Fetterman is the bellwether for the Democrat party. In my quick googling, he's in favor of yet another middle east war and has not even bothered to tell his own constituents why he thinks it helps Pennsylvania. Maybe he should be primaried.

My point still stands that the issues you bring up - immigration, law and order, welfare - are still important issues that Democrats are still trying to tackle. They wrote the most aggressive anti-immigrant bill this country has ever seen last year, and it was ignored by Republicans.

The Republican party no longer holds the mantle as the party of limited government. This is why I left.