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  1. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    09 Nov '09 09:00
    Progress and its discontents.

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/afghanistan/india-s-21st-century-war
  2. 09 Nov '09 17:53
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Progress and its discontents.

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/afghanistan/india-s-21st-century-war
    http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/afghanistan/india-s-21st-century-war

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  3. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    09 Nov '09 18:09
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Progress and its discontents.

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/afghanistan/india-s-21st-century-war
    Their discontent with the excesses of capitalism is understandable, but their approach, in the long run, is counter-productive. Like the Beatles said, if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.
  4. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    10 Nov '09 09:48
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/afghanistan/india-s-21st-century-war

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    Google 'Naxalite insurgency' and see what you come up with.
  5. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    10 Nov '09 09:51
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Their discontent with the excesses of capitalism is understandable, but their approach, in the long run, is counter-productive. Like the Beatles said, if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.
    I'm wondering if this thing is going to roll. Since Mumbai, urban terror's been on the up and up in Pakistan. This Naxalite thing has the potential to get really big. All that's needed is something in Bangladesh and the entire sub-continent is destabilised.
  6. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    11 Nov '09 00:13
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Progress and its discontents.

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/afghanistan/india-s-21st-century-war
    Alright, here's my objection to the Naxalites. Namely, that the ends cannot be divorced from the means. In the modern age, I do not think that you can build a peaceful and democratic society through violent and militaristic means. The means that you use to wage your revolution should harmonize with the type of society you wish to build. If you win a violent and militaristic revolution, the resulting society will inevitably reflect that. Instead of breeding a generation of politically involved citizens, they are breeding a generation of soldiers. There is an overwhelming likelihood that, in the event of victory, the ensuing society will be a hierarchical and militarized one. It will be the Bolshevik disaster all over again.

    Plus if they don't win, it will amount to nothing more than a colossal waste of energy and resources that could have been put to much better use. And I find it difficult to believe that they'll win in the end.
  7. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    11 Nov '09 00:15 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I'm wondering if this thing is going to roll. Since Mumbai, urban terror's been on the up and up in Pakistan. This Naxalite thing has the potential to get really big. All that's needed is something in Bangladesh and the entire sub-continent is destabilised.
    The Naxalite thing has been going on since the 80s. It's gotten progressively bigger, but I don't see it exploding exponentially anytime soon. I wish them well, but I fear it will all turn out badly in the end. I don't see them being able to cut a deal like the Maoists in Nepal did.