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Originally posted by eljefejesusAnd, presumably, you are also for the right of the poorest, or anyone else, to support state intervention to improve their lot and the lot of their society - including their subjective experience of freedom?
I am for the right of even the poorest people to support freedom and libertarianism... and less government interference.
Originally posted by telerionUsually those I hear from make more money than that or have tried running their own business.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm
Finally, somebody reported on what I've been saying from time to time around here. I meet so many people with low to moderate income that scream that they are being "taxed to death." Typically though, these households get most or all of that money back.
It's pretty funny listening t ...[text shortened]... tem go "sackcloth and ashes" through the streets bemoaning their "disappearing freedom."
Originally posted by joe beyserAnd my won't you like fine and dandy then - your tinfoil hat transformed in to a crown of prophesy.
It is called debt. It is what will collapse the dollar. It is preplanned. It will give the NWO financial control of the world.
Until then, of course, it is just a hat that makes you look spectacularly silly.
Originally posted by DrKFWhy thank you thank you very much. If I am going to look silly, it should be spectacularly silly. I fear that I have failed to do this though and you have put you ignorance on display here. You should keep up on current events.
And my won't you like fine and dandy then - your tinfoil hat transformed in to a crown of prophesy.
Until then, of course, it is just a hat that makes you look spectacularly silly.
Originally posted by joe beyserI follow current events quite well, thanks. I have yet to come across anything remotely resembling evidence of your bizarre conspiracy, perhaps because it is entirely in your head.
Why thank you thank you very much. If I am going to look silly, it should be spectacularly silly. I fear that I have failed to do this though and you have put you ignorance on display here. You should keep up on current events.
Originally posted by DrKFThe funnies isn't where you will find out about current events. Look further.
I follow current events quite well, thanks. I have yet to come across anything remotely resembling evidence of your bizarre conspiracy, perhaps because it is entirely in your head.
Originally posted by telerionI would think that the preponderence of that group is the very low income brackett. Middle class still gets reamed.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm
Finally, somebody reported on what I've been saying from time to time around here. I meet so many people with low to moderate income that scream that they are being "taxed to death." Typically though, these households get most or all of that money back.
It's pretty funny listening t ...[text shortened]... tem go "sackcloth and ashes" through the streets bemoaning their "disappearing freedom."
Originally posted by joe beyserNeither of the daily newspapers I read have 'funnies' in them. I read grown-up papers. But you keep going - just blathering on about how ignorant I am because I haven't got a shiny hat like yours. I mean, actually supplying evidence of a conspiracy to establish your New World Order would be playing in to 'their' hands, wouldn't it?
The funnies isn't where you will find out about current events. Look further.
Originally posted by telerionIt's pretty funny listening to net moochers of the system go "sackcloth and ashes" through the streets bemoaning their "disappearing freedom."[/b]
http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm
Finally, somebody reported on what I've been saying from time to time around here. I meet so many people with low to moderate income that scream that they are being "taxed to death." Typically though, these households get most or all of that money back.
It's pretty funny listening t ...[text shortened]... tem go "sackcloth and ashes" through the streets bemoaning their "disappearing freedom."
And your tax burden is...what?
Originally posted by DrKFIt isn't my one world order. Look it up. There is ample evidence in the mainstream media now. I don't care to convince you of anything here. Anyone that points out the facts gets labeled by ignoramuses like you. Words like tinfoil and conspiracy theory used to silence truth. When you are in your labor camp you will have a lot to think about as you were warned.
Neither of the daily newspapers I read have 'funnies' in them. I read grown-up papers. But you keep going - just blathering on about how ignorant I am because I haven't got a shiny hat like yours. I mean, actually supplying evidence of a conspiracy to establish your New World Order would be playing in to 'their' hands, wouldn't it?
Originally posted by joe beyserFunny little fellow...
It isn't my one world order. Look it up. There is ample evidence in the mainstream media now. I don't care to convince you of anything here. Anyone that points out the facts gets labeled by ignoramuses like you. Words like tinfoil and conspiracy theory used to silence truth. When you are in your labor camp you will have a lot to think about as you were warned.
Originally posted by joe beyserAt the tea parties you mean? By the way, very few small business owners are in the upper tax brackets (like less than 3% ) so I don't think you can assume them to be net tax payers just because they operate a business.
Usually those I hear from make more money than that or have tried running their own business.