State sponsored poetry is just one example anyway. In my home town the local council decided 'for the greater good' or for 'economic stimulation' or some other fashionable catch phrase they use for as a cover for spending other peoples money that the citizens of Tauranga must fund a theater. One of the early acts to tour there was a show called 'puppetry of the penis' two guys manipulate there penises into shapes and this is projected onto a screen.
Not interested in such an act? Too bad you will pay for it.
Totally opposed to such depravity? Too bad you will pay for it.
Wild idea to think people should be able to opt out of such 'culture' isn't it? Just a bit too much free thinking for FMF?
Originally posted by FMFI care. The person trying to promote their own art cares. People that like to assess their own values rather than have them assigned care.
The state deciding what is or isn't poetry? How funny. Look, if it attracts punters and promotes economic activity, and they comes out ahead on the whole deal, the people of Nevada are winners and their government has done well. Who cares whether you or I think the poetry is brilliant or crap.
Originally posted by WajomaNothing is being "assigned" in any way that determines what culture is and is not. The Nevada person trying to promote their own art, if they have any business sense at all, will find a way to benefit from the Festival and from all the domestic and out-of-state tourists that are attracted to it.
I care. The person trying to promote their own art cares. People that like to assess their own values rather than have them assigned care.
Every visitor to the Festival and every consumer of art and poetry - or hotel accommodation or food for that matter - can make their own assessments about what they value or don't value. Nevadans - and the state's visitors - are free, after all.
I think, if you and I were Nevadans, our tax money would be well spent on promoting tourism by promoting cultural assets, the more diverse and/or idiosyncratic the better, and investing in attractions that stimulate business activity.
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Originally posted by FMFOf course you know better how to spend my money. No news there. If the tax burden happens to be the straw that breaks the back of my business that doesn't have anything to do with the states idea of poetry I should be just fine with that, be thankful as such.
Nothing is being "assigned" in any way that determines what culture is and is not. The Nevada person trying to promote their own art, if they have any business sense at all, will find a way to benefit from the Festival and from all the domestic and out-of-state tourists that are attracted to it.
Every visitor to the Festival and every consumer of art /or idiosyncratic the better, and investing in attractions that stimulate business activity.
When I am unable to pursue the values I choose in order to fund the values a bureaurat thinks I should choose, then values are being assigned.
No way around that one, no matter how you like to dress it up.
Originally posted by WajomaI'd go and see it. I hope is was a success. Opt out by all means, Wajoma. Don't go and see it. Mount a campaign and seek the resignations of the decision makers if you want. Or vote accordingly next time. What I wouldn't want however, if I were in Nevada, is the government abdicating its responsibility to promote the business interests of its state, nor the imposition of an impossible to administer tax system where everyone has some kind of line item veto on expenditure, in order to placate a small minority of citizens who are entirely uncomfortable living in a representative social democracy.
Wild idea to think people should be able to opt out of such 'culture' isn't it? Just a bit too much free thinking for FMF?
Originally posted by FMFWhat a long winded, time wasting, keybaord wearing out, way of saying:
I'd go and see it. I hope is was a success. Opt out by all means, Wajoma. Don't go and see it. Mount a campaign and seek the resignations of the decision makers if you want. Or vote accordingly next time. What I wouldn't want however, if I were in Nevada, is the government abdicating its responsibility to promote the business interests of its state, nor the impo ...[text shortened]... ority of citizens who are entirely uncomfortable living in a representative social democracy.
"It's right because more than 50.01% say it's right."
Originally posted by WajomaThe government that gets elected - by whatever margin - promoting regional business, tourist and economic activity? Yep. I approve. Wajoma setting the policy for stimulating regional business that is in competition with neighbouring regions? No. Looks like you'd cop out citing how the government is imposing tourism on your state or 'assigning poetry' to you..
"It's right because more than 50.01% say it's right."
Originally posted by WajomaYes. But OK then. Propose a line item veto type system. I asked you to do so on another thread the other day but you didn't respond. How would the system work and how would it be enforced? Would you be willing to pay for the additional expense of such a complicated system.
Right and that portion of my local taxes too. yes
Originally posted by FMFYou don't have a majic margin in mind? Want to vote on the margin? No formula for working out what margin is needed to declare something to be true, right, correct?
The government that gets elected - by whatever margin - promoting regional business, tourist and economic activity? Yep. I approve. Wajoma setting the policy for stimulating regional business that is in competition with neighbouring regions? No. Looks like you'd cop out citing how the government is imposing tourism on your state or 'assigning poetry' to you..