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My cultural references, go all the way back to when you people were always screaming racism, and I would say, no, it is not about race. It is about culture.
I have mentioned it a lot, and now the Democrats are coming to their senses and realizing they have a cultural mess. Because of me, you already knew that!!
Check out this arm-waving fairy
https://www.nytimes.com/video/business/dealbook/100000010563650/governor-gavin-newsom-democrats-dealbook.html
@Earl-of-Trumps saidSo you are confirming the character of the American electorate, that they would rather vote for a criminal with dementia as long as they are white, because whiteness still reigns supreme, right?
.AJoe, I just read a couple of days ago that a bigwig democrat suggested to the DNC, that in 2028,
the democrats should not choose a woman or a minority.
Why don't they just come out and say it, for gawd's sake, "We needs us a white man"
Oh, I forgot... he'd be a racist if he said that 😕
Well at least you are honest.
@kmax87 saidThe records show that countries with African leaders are failures. Countries with Indian leaders are just slightly better. Countries with Hispanic leaders are even better still. Countries with Japanese/Chinese leaders are pretty successful. Countries with white leaders create the most successful, powerful countries, and are world leaders in most criteria by which success is measured.
So you are confirming the character of the American electorate, that they would rather vote for a criminal with dementia as long as they are white, because whiteness still reigns supreme, right?
Well at least you are honest.
Records also indicate that countries with Muslim populations are generally not successful. Hindu populations are just slightly better. Christian and Bhuddists populations are among the most successful.
History shows that leaders with Capitalist leanings are more successful. Leaders with Socialist/communist leanings tend to fail, miserably.
So ...
- the worst leader in the world is likely to be a Communist Muslim of African descent
- the most successful is likely to be a white Christian Capitalist.
Therefore people will naturally be wary of who they elect into office.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidAha so you are also trying to emulate Trumpian 12 dementia chess. Well to adopt Jedi philosophy, those were the droids you were not looking for.
Why bring up Biden?
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@kmax87 saidI'm not saying that.
So you are confirming the character of the American electorate, that they would rather vote for a criminal with dementia as long as they are white, because whiteness still reigns supreme, right?
Well at least you are honest.
What I am doing is paraphrasing what a dem said, and then word what it infers.
May I be so bold as to ask you where you learned to read?
@Earl-of-Trumps saidOn the back of a Rice Crispies box
I'm not saying that.
What I am doing is paraphrasing what a dem said, and then word what it infers.
May I be so bold as to ask you where you learned to read?
@Rajk999 saidSure I agree the most successful in terms of storing up wealth for an ever decreasing number of people, tends to be white Christian Capitalist.
So ...
- the worst leader in the world is likely to be a Communist Muslim of African descent
- the most successful is likely to be a white Christian Capitalist.
Therefore people will naturally be wary of who they elect into office.
Also the white Christian Capitalist's have been the most ruthless land grabbing force in recent history, due to them being able to compartmentalize their "Christianity" when it has come to dealing with people they have considered not to be their equal and treat these people viciously and despotically without any regard to them also being children of the God they claim to serve. Those considered not worthy have been exploited to their death because that's how savages and animals are to be treated, apparently.
@kmax87 saidWhat a load of nonsense..
Sure I agree the most successful in terms of storing up wealth for an ever decreasing number of people, tends to be white Christian Capitalist.
Also the white Christian Capitalist's have been the most ruthless land grabbing force in recent history, due to them being able to compartmentalize their "Christianity" when it has come to dealing with people they have considered no ...[text shortened]... been exploited to their death because that's how savages and animals are to be treated, apparently.
- storing up wealth is a good thing. It is recommended in the Bible - hard work, saving, passing on assets to children and grandchildren. This is what leads to prosperity. Subsequent generations have a solid headstart on life. Those who failed to do this almost never prosper.
- the number of prosperous people are on the rise in all developed western Christian nations mostly run by whites... no such thing as 'ever decreasing', except in your little head.
- In the last thousand years or so, both Christianity and Islam ventured out and colonized several parts of the world. Islam was far more ruthless than Christianity. However in the end the nations colonised by Christianity were left a critically important legacy which made them superior to what was left by Islam. Colonial empires based on Christian principles left :
- have higher literacy rates
- more formal education systems
- more transport and administrative infrastructure
- better organised legal systems.
For me personally, we are a product of the British Empire, sometime Spanish and even French, but all these were empires based on Christian principles. While we dont not fancy everything British, we are happy that we did not end up a colony administered by some Islamic authority.
So for those colonies who complain about Christian based colonialism, they should be thankful.
@Rajk999 saidSo the whole manifest destiny ideology that authorized the slaughter and dispossession of land and life as the US spread from east to west and wiped out everything indigenous in its path, what was that? The wonderful embrace of capitalism? Collateral damage? The sugar and cotton trades that required slaves that could be worked to death and then discarded without consequence, what do you call that? Freedom?
What a load of nonsense..
- storing up wealth is a good thing. It is recommended in the Bible - hard work, saving, passing on assets to children and grandchildren. This is what leads to prosperity. Subsequent generations have a solid headstart on life. Those who failed to do this almost never prosper.
So for those colonies who complain about Christian based colonialism, they should be thankful.
What about the British with their narco-terrorism. Turning India and Afghanistan into poppy fields so that they could use opium to meet their balance of payments with China. And in the same breath the government used the British media to turn the situation upside down by creating the myth of the evil Chinese drugs pusher who would ensnare and enslave the innocent? And what has been the long term impact of that meddling? Afghanistan still produces a huge percentage of the world's opium, and wars have been fought, but the genie of greed and exploitation as one group feeds off the misery that addiction produces in another group, well that's not a problem of British Imperial Capitalism, is it?
Don't talk about Islam a thousand years ago. Britain and America have been upending the social order as they have seen fit for the past 200 years and then have had the gall to lecture the victims of their greedy exploits as to the proper way of running things? Give us all a break!
Look at the 20th century. What have British and American corporate interests been doing in the middle east? From the end of WW1 to now, the realization of how important oil was going to be in a modern industrial society, meant gaining the support of Royal Houses and political movements willing to sign over oil licenses/concessions all over the Arabian peninsula. At what cost? Do you need a history of regime changes wrought by the Dulles brothers and the CIA to see how modern radical Islam came into being, or are you going to maintain some other fantasy of what happened in the region?
These days we see the daily use of politics to propagandize workers against having rights to maintain a decent life and instead we see the rise of the 1% who now own disproportionately more than what they did 60 years ago, with what outcome? A shrinking middle class and the politics of grievance so that the people least responsible for the current economic malaise (like immigrants) are highlighted as the root cause of the problems in today's society while the theology of a rising tide raising all boats and the fantasy of trickle down economics is still promoted as cannon catechism allowing the rich to walk free unencumbered by any obligation or responsibility to maintain a good equilibrium in society. Instead we see the cost of housing/education/food/healthcare rise, to make living unaffordable and we see ordinary workers losing so much ground compared to the lifestyles they enjoyed while growing up that trying to give their own children the lifestyle they grew up with means taking on ever more extra jobs, just to stay afloat.
But hey, they've got capitalism so they should be fine! Right?
@kmax87 saidToo long ... Not interested. If you want to pick one of those items to discuss, I will be happy to comment. Otherwise .. whatever you say.
So the whole manifest destiny ideology that authorized the slaughter and dispossession of land and life as the US spread from east to west and wiped out everything indigenous in its path, what was that? The wonderful embrace of capitalism? Collateral damage? The sugar and cotton trades that required slaves that could be worked to death and then discarded without consequence, w ...[text shortened]... e extra jobs, just to stay afloat.
But hey, they've got capitalism so they should be fine! Right?
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@kmax87 saidOk.. lets start with this :
You can do that too. When you select quote, erase all the bits you want to ignore and leave the bits you want to address.
.. the US spread from east to west and wiped out everything indigenous in its path, ..The sugar and cotton trades that required slaves that could be worked to death and then discarded without consequence..
From the getgo, judging historical events in this manner is called presentism. What happened, happened. It was colonialism at that time and all colonial powers did it. It was the nature of human existence. Indigenous tribes of the US also killed, raped, scalped and enslaved nearby tribes. It was the way of life, and had nothing to do with capitalism.
Same with slavery. All countries engaged in slavery. African tribes enslaved other African trimes. Muslims enslaved whoever they could get.
Presentism is an attempt to distort historical facts with morals and values non-existent at the time and it is dishonest. So if you want to reword your initial comment, we can proceed, otherwise it is a waste of my time.
@Rajk999 saidBut you use presentism when you catalogue a litany of grievances against Muslims, most of which are 1000 years old. Interesting.
Ok.. lets start with this :
.. the US spread from east to west and wiped out everything indigenous in its path, ..The sugar and cotton trades that required slaves that could be worked to death and then discarded without consequence..
From the getgo, judging historical events in this manner is called presentism. What happened, happened. It was colonialism a ...[text shortened]... . So if you want to reword your initial comment, we can proceed, otherwise it is a waste of my time.
The issue is that the US presents itself as moral arbiter in world affairs. It maintains that it has the authority to do so due to its Judeo Christian roots, to set the standard of what sort of State behaviour is acceptable in a modern rules based order. It declares this or that nation as a pariah state based on this or that violations of human rights. The only problem being its own checkered history of corrupt, immoral and reprehensible behaviour when it comes to its behaviour towards those not considered equal within its own midst, and with the Trump MAGA regime, it acts with impunity to quash the human rights of those it considers undeserving. Do you acknowledge any of this?