NHC in next 8 years

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/clinton-elected-ready-taxpayer-funded-091500310.html

Now that health care is in shambles with Obamacare, we will soon have NHC in next 8 years as predicted.

Originally posted by whodey
Now that health care is in shambles with Obamacare, .

In what way is it 'in shambles'? Is it just the name you don't like? Would 'Clintoncare' or 'Trumpcare' sound better?

Originally posted by whodey
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/clinton-elected-ready-taxpayer-funded-091500310.html

Now that health care is in shambles with Obamacare, we will soon have NHC in next 8 years as predicted.

As long as they keep a private option available so that when you really need that MRI, you can pay for it rather than waiting 7 months, a NHS-like system is fine with me. Sure, free same morning doctor's appointments may no longer be available, but hey, doctors of overrated. Suck it up and move on. The cold will go away on its own. Or, if you really need it, call your nurse practitioner cousin and ask for a Z-pack script and away you go.

Originally posted by sh76
As long as they keep a private option available so that when you really need that MRI, you can pay for it rather than waiting 7 months, a NHS-like system is fine with me. Sure, free same morning doctor's appointments may no longer be available, but hey, doctors of overrated. Suck it up and move on. The cold will go away on its own. Or, if you really need it, call your nurse practitioner cousin and ask for a Z-pack script and away you go.

Sure, we still have to tend to the rich folk who can afford timely health care.

The little people can go eat cake.

I've noticed more stories like this in the news

http://www.forbes.com/sites/simonconstable/2016/07/14/how-my-obamacare-coverage-is-almost-worse-than-no-coverage/2/#62aa327174cd

People need to be primed for NHC

Originally posted by whodey
Sure, we still have to tend to the rich folk who can afford timely health care.

The little people can go eat cake.

The little people now eat kale.

Originally posted by whodey
Sure, we still have to tend to the rich folk who can afford timely health care.

The little people can go eat cake.

Rich people are always going to be able to buy more stuff. That's the benefit of being rich.

At least an NHS-like system can efficiently provide decent service to the non-rich.

Originally posted by twhitehead
In what way is it 'in shambles'? Is it just the name you don't like? Would 'Clintoncare' or 'Trumpcare' sound better?

Enormous increases in insurance premiums for those not subsidized under the ACA, for one.

Originally posted by sh76
Rich people are always going to be able to buy more stuff. That's the benefit of being rich.

At least an NHS-like system can efficiently provide decent service to the non-rich.

Well then the left must stop them!

Laws must be passed to prevent the 1% from obtaining health care not available to others. 😠

Naturally, Congress would be exempt, like they are from Obamacare, but everyone else needs to feel the pain.

Originally posted by sh76
Enormous increases in insurance premiums for those not subsidized under the ACA, for one.

Higher costs are hardly well described as 'shambles'. So how large exactly are these increases? I want to see stats.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Higher costs are hardly well described as 'shambles'. So how large exactly are these increases? I want to see stats.

Yes, "shambles" is an overstatement.

But to answer your question, pretty large.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/09/15/growing-burden-of-employer-provider-health-care-has-accelerated-under-obamacare/#2197509235a6

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/04/21/Get-Ready-Huge-Obamacare-Premium-Hikes-2017

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/obamacare-deadline/health-insurance-companies-set-hike-obamacare-premiums-n564226

Originally posted by sh76
Yes, "shambles" is an overstatement.

But to answer your question, pretty large.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/09/15/growing-burden-of-employer-provider-health-care-has-accelerated-under-obamacare/#2197509235a6

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/04/21/Get-Ready-Huge-Obamacare-Premium-Hikes-2017

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/obamacare-deadline/health-insurance-companies-set-hike-obamacare-premiums-n564226

It is starting to unravel.

Happy?

What they want, though, is the magnificent single payer system that the nations veterans have with cost effective death lists.

Originally posted by sh76
Yes, "shambles" is an overstatement.

But to answer your question, pretty large.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/09/15/growing-burden-of-employer-provider-health-care-has-accelerated-under-obamacare/#2197509235a6

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/04/21/Get-Ready-Huge-Obamacare-Premium-Hikes-2017

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/obamacare-deadline/health-insurance-companies-set-hike-obamacare-premiums-n564226

That is an odd set of references.
The first is two years old. Do you have anything more current?
The second two are talking about hypothetical future rates.
I want actual stats for the last 10 years showing that healthcare insurance went up due to Obamacare. So, it must show that the yearly increases prior to Obamacare were lower than the yearly increases after Obamacare.

Originally posted by whodey
It is starting to unravel.

I bet you said that years ago. You are just like a typical 'end of the worlder'. It will be any day now! We will start to see the evidence next week!
When it actually unravels, let us know. Or if you have actual evidence of it unravelling, let us know. If all you have is your usual fare of lies and wild speculation, then you've got nothing.

Conservatives deal in fear-mongering because they have nothing else.

Where's their heathcare plan?

Oh, wait, I remember...

It was "Don't get sick." And then it was "And if you do get sick, die quickly so your family isn't bankrupted by medical bills."

Is this the "compassionate conservatism" we heard so much about?