Originally posted by OdBodA few concerns, but not many. At the rate the Russian economy is shrinking, I'd say Putin won't be able to afford to play "cold war" much longer.
Given the present stance Russia seems to have on the Ukraine and its destabilization, does anyone else have any concerns? Or am I being paranoid?
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Originally posted by bill718You're mixing up your post- and your neo-Stalinists.
A few concerns, but not many. At the rate the Russian economy is shrinking, I'd say Putin won't be able to afford to play "cold war" much longer.
The post-Stalinist Soviet presidents played cold war.
The neo-Stalinist Putin plays hot war. This is a lot more dangerous.
But I'd say the danger is Putin himself, not what he may or may not do with the bottom-feeders in Pyongyang.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraRussia could pursue an aggressive foreign policy by proxy, not new of course, but North Korea is a loose cannon and who can predict what they might do if they think that Russia [and China?] might support them. The Chinese economy is slowing down, possible social problems? Russian economy under pressure. Nothing like a good conflict to act as a distraction!
What are your lict"concerns" specifically?
Originally posted by OdBodWho would North Korea be aggressive towards and how would Putin's Russia gain from this?
Russia could pursue an aggressive foreign policy by proxy, not new of course, but North Korea is a loose cannon and who can predict what they might do if they think that Russia [and China?] might support them. The Chinese economy is slowing down, possible social problems? Russian economy under pressure. Nothing like a good conflict to act as a distraction!
The Chinese economy is still growing strongly.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraNobody gives a shet about the Chinese economy weener boy because with 4 times the population of the US they just finally equaled it, like that's some big deal.
Who would North Korea be aggressive towards and how would Putin's Russia gain from this?
The Chinese economy is still growing strongly.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraNorth Korea has shown continued aggression toward South Korea both politically and militarily. Additionally my money is on North Korea being behind the recent much publicised cyber attack in the US. Putin could cast himself as a peace maker exacting economic concessions for his help, thereby reducing the cost of his Ukrainian move. A serious conflict in Korea would certainly destabilise the World economy, sanctions would be harder to maintain on Russia. The Chinese economy is slowing down, when the various economic bubbles start to burst [ which ALWAYS happens], what will be the outcome given there is unlikely to be any peaceful change?
Who would North Korea be aggressive towards and how would Putin's Russia gain from this?
The Chinese economy is still growing strongly.
Originally posted by Shallow BlueProxy wars are part of the Cold War formula. Russia is not directly involved in Syria or Ukraine.
You're mixing up your post- and your neo-Stalinists.
The post-Stalinist Soviet presidents played cold war.
The neo-Stalinist Putin plays hot war. This is a lot more dangerous.
But I'd say the danger is Putin himself, not what he may or may not do with the bottom-feeders in Pyongyang.
Originally posted by OdBodThe West won the first Cold War and fighting in Korea was a part of that victory.
North Korea has shown continued aggression toward South Korea both politically and militarily. Additionally my money is on North Korea being behind the recent much publicised cyber attack in the US. Putin could cast himself as a peace maker exacting economic concessions for his help, thereby reducing the cost of his Ukrainian move. A serious conflict in Korea ...[text shortened]... ich ALWAYS happens], what will be the outcome given there is unlikely to be any peaceful change?
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungIf you think Russia is not directly involved in the invasion of Ukraine, I have this bridge to sell you. A true classic, right in the middle of New York city, only $20 million - delivery on receipt of cash.
Proxy wars are part of the Cold War formula. Russia is not directly involved in Syria or Ukraine.