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MB

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Pre-employment personality tests are trending right now. Employers ask a bunch of dumb questions to gauge your personality so they hire more productive workers. That is the theory anyway.

They all have one thing in common though. They always interview A LOT of people, so they are most likely wasting your time unless you are a sensible liar and answer the questions in the way you think they want you to. Sensible liars make better workers? That doesn't seem likely.

I would suggest they are getting better workers because they are interviewing A LOT of people, not because the personality test is helping. The interviewer is already testing your personality with their biases and such. It is human nature.

A Pre-employment personality test is just their way of letting you know the odds of you getting the job are very slim, because they are interviewing A LOT of people. Do yourself a favor and tell them pre-employment personality tests are insulting to people's intelligence and walk out on them. You will save yourself time and theirs as well.

It is like George Carlin said. They want obedient workers. People just smart enough to do their jobs and stupid enough to take people's crap when your managers are in a kick down mood. That requires conformity to the point of stupidity, but at least you keep working for the jerk. That is what they are gauging you for with their insulting personality test.

Have you ever thought your supervisor was unreasonable before in a past job you worked at? Of course not. Sensible lie. The boss is always right.

Have you ever had to paint on smile because you were unhappy? Of course not. Sensible lie. It doesn't matter if you are from a very big family, 2 of your brothers died and your ex wife and best friend too. You are always happy. Happy people are productive people. Everybody knows that.

Okay, so if you need the job badly I understand. Life happens. Just be sure to lie sensibly. Sensible liars are productive workers.

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@Metal-Brain

Well said. 👍

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Oh, and work is for suckers.

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@metal-brain said
Pre-employment personality tests are trending right now. Employers ask a bunch of dumb questions to gauge your personality so they hire more productive workers. That is the theory anyway.

They all have one thing in common though. They always interview A LOT of people, so they are most likely wasting your time unless you are a sensible liar and answer the questions in t ...[text shortened]... dly I understand. Life happens. Just be sure to lie sensibly. Sensible liars are productive workers.
A job interview has always been a sort of pre-employment personality test. The selection on diplomas and work record already being sorted out in the judgement phase of letters and CV’s.

Different people function better in different settings. Generally a happy and friendly work environment benefits productivity. However, for many an autist, it’s a nightmare.

The new thing I see a lot of is gaming.
So, various prospetive people are invited to play a computer game. The computer game doesn’t care about gender, colour, education, etc. but it does make clear if a person’s abilities suit the job they’re going after.

I asked questions about age. Considering many older people are less computer savvy than their millennial counter-parts, but seemingly age differences are built into the game, so that it doesn’t produce an age bias.

I would still recommend a job interview though. Just to see if there’s a match.

MB

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@shavixmir said
A job interview has always been a sort of pre-employment personality test. The selection on diplomas and work record already being sorted out in the judgement phase of letters and CV’s.

Different people function better in different settings. Generally a happy and friendly work environment benefits productivity. However, for many an autist, it’s a nightmare.

The new th ...[text shortened]... duce an age bias.

I would still recommend a job interview though. Just to see if there’s a match.
"The selection on diplomas and work record already being sorted out in the judgement phase of letters and CV’s."

Some employers still ask for that info, but the employers who typically do pre-employment personality tests usually do not. If they do they do not even ask for your past employer's phone number like they used to. They are clearly putting an emphasis on the psychological profile of a potential employee.

I know that sounds stupid, because it is. Employers buy into all sorts of stupid things though. Urine testing is a waste of their money. I passed the last 2 urine tests using artificial urine. All because they frown on cannabis use which is legal in my state. Some do saliva tests and washing your mouth out with hydrogen peroxide before I went in worked for that before.

This is just another game we play with uninformed employers who think they know what they are doing.

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@shavixmir said
A job interview has always been a sort of pre-employment personality test. The selection on diplomas and work record already being sorted out in the judgement phase of letters and CV’s.

Different people function better in different settings. Generally a happy and friendly work environment benefits productivity. However, for many an autist, it’s a nightmare.

The new th ...[text shortened]... duce an age bias.

I would still recommend a job interview though. Just to see if there’s a match.
All I care about, after all of this, is being able to fire someone who does not do the job. Do you libs have a problem with that? Like, do you have a few provisos, that I, the employer have to meet?
Is there some duty that I have to this person when I assess their abilities?

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@averagejoe1 said
All I care about, after all of this, is being able to fire someone who does not do the job. Do you libs have a problem with that? Like, do you have a few provisos, that I, the employer have to meet?
Is there some duty that I have to this person when I assess their abilities?
What if they do their job but do not get along with others?
In an extreme case a person might be creating a hostile work environment.

Isn't there always an exception?

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@metal-brain said
What if they do their job but do not get along with others?
In an extreme case a person might be creating a hostile work environment.

Isn't there always an exception?
And I , as employer, would not want to lose this performer, who may be my partner one day, over a personality conflict with other workers. Not being funny here, but it may make more sense to fire the people he does not get along with.
I would have to know from you what the beef would be, I guess. But yes, if the man, or Trans, in question is the problem, I would have to fire him/it/her if he/it/she is screwing up the environment.
And you are right, there are always exceptions. Good Question! I give you a thumb up.

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@metal-brain said
"The selection on diplomas and work record already being sorted out in the judgement phase of letters and CV’s."

Some employers still ask for that info, but the employers who typically do pre-employment personality tests usually do not. If they do they do not even ask for your past employer's phone number like they used to. They are clearly putting an emphasis on the p ...[text shortened]... This is just another game we play with uninformed employers who think they know what they are doing.
Awwww Metal Brain. You defraud. Downer. Liberal, are you? Had me fooled. Downer. And I just thumb-upped you. Can I fake it back?

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@averagejoe1 said
All I care about, after all of this, is being able to fire someone who does not do the job. Do you libs have a problem with that? Like, do you have a few provisos, that I, the employer have to meet?
Is there some duty that I have to this person when I assess their abilities?
I don’t disagree with firing dysfunctional employees.

Obviously it would be good to know why they’re dysfunctional. Maybe it’s systemic and you need to change something.

And if it’s an employee who before was immensely productive, perhaps find out what’s going on. Would be a waste to fire someone who’s in a rough patch, when if that’s sorted out, he can add to your business.

But I have no qualms firing someone.

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@averagejoe1 said
Awwww Metal Brain. You defraud. Downer. Liberal, are you? Had me fooled. Downer. And I just thumb-upped you. Can I fake it back?
I am a communist.
People will try to get some people fired simply because they don't like that person. I have seen it happen even though that person did good work and was productive. Perhaps as an employer you don't care that much, but if it affected the productivity of several workers you might reconsider. After all, you are interested in profit and not losses.

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@metal-brain said
I am a communist.
People will try to get some people fired simply because they don't like that person. I have seen it happen even though that person did good work and was productive. Perhaps as an employer you don't care that much, but if it affected the productivity of several workers you might reconsider. After all, you are interested in profit and not losses.
I think I made that clear, and cemented it with maybe firing the OTHER guy. I want employees who will make my business thrive ,so that I and my biz are productive. And so i can pay them more salary so that we can ALL get rich. That is why I love capitalism. I can compete and be my own man without govt intervention, and be self reliant.
It is wonderful to go through the day and never think about the presence of government. THAT is Freedom.

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@metal-brain said
What if they do their job but do not get along with others?
In an extreme case a person might be creating a hostile work environment.

Isn't there always an exception?
I have fired people for just that. One bad person can ruin your entire crew.

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@metal-brain said
Pre-employment personality tests are trending right now.
Welcome to the 1980s.

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@metal-brain said
I am a communist.
"What is your source of information?"

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