Originally posted by no1marauderI feel it would be a good idea to actually await an actual proposal with full details before making up my mind
I feel it would be a good idea to actually await an actual proposal with full details before making up my mind. I don't have the luxury you do of simply saying "Obama's administration is proposing it; therefore, it must be a step toward taking away all our freedoms".
What a foolish thing to do!
In face of the imminent usurpation of freedom by the Obama administration you should never stop and think before opposing anything that comes out of it, Obama has an insatiable lust for power and control and this is only another brick in the wall. We should in fact be grateful that whodey has opened our eyes to the truth once again, its obvious that the desired goal of the administration is the destruction of the Republic. Just look at Rome's transition from republic to empire, its the exact same pattern, coincidence? I think not!
Originally posted by generalissimoWhy not just come up with a national health care ID or some other national ID and not give the details? Until details are given to make it look worth while, they have no business with coming out with it in the first place.
[b]I feel it would be a good idea to actually await an actual proposal with full details before making up my mind
What a foolish thing to do!
In face of the imminent usurpation of freedom by the Obama administration you should never stop and think before opposing anything that comes out of it, Obama has an insatiable lust for power and contro ...[text shortened]... ome's transition from republic to empire, its the exact same pattern, coincidence? I think not![/b]
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Originally posted by no1marauderBut you ASSume that. You also ASSume that no one reading it might take similar action. You are no better than Sarah Palin. In fact, you are worse because she never said anyone should shoot anyone.
I don't think you actually believe the hysterical bile you pour out every day on these forums, so I think there's little chance of that.
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Originally posted by whodeyI didn't put a rifle cross hairs on Ohio, did I? It's a logical assumption that you're just a loudmouthed, hysterical jerk since you prove it here every single day.
But you ASSume that. You also ASSume that no one reading it might take similar action. You are no better than Sarah Palin. In fact, you are worse because she never said anyone should shoot anyone.
If you actually believed that Democrats were aiming to take away all our freedoms AND that people have a right to resist this by force, then you'd be inclined to grab a weapon anyway.
Originally posted by no1marauderWhen did I act like a loud mouthed hysterical jerk? I simply am asking the why it is that the government wants to create an internet ID.
I didn't put a rifle cross hairs on Ohio, did I? It's a logical assumption that you're just a loudmouthed, hysterical jerk since you prove it here every single day.
If you actually believed that Democrats were aiming to take away all our freedoms AND that people have a right to resist this by force, then you'd be inclined to grab a weapon anyway.
Jefferson once wrote the if we do not fight for limited government, it will disappear. So would you call him a loud mouthed jerk as well?
Originally posted by whodeyYou're comparing yourself to Thomas Jefferson?????????????????????????
When did I act like a loud mouthed hysterical jerk? I simply am asking the why it is that the government wants to create an internet ID.
Jefferson once wrote the if we do not fight for limited government, it will disappear. So would you call him a loud mouthed jerk as well?
I can't possibly type enough LMFAO's to respond to that.
Originally posted by no1marauderI never said I was Thomas Jefferson, rather, I'm simply saying that we both believe in limited government to help secure our freedoms. Obviously you don't, unless you would care to expound on what your idea of limited government should be.
You're comparing yourself to Thomas Jefferson?????????????????????????
I can't possibly type enough LMFAO's to respond to that.
Originally posted by whodeyI'm all for limited government. I'm also, like Jefferson, in favor of an energetic, efficient government which deals with the concerns of the people.
I never said I was Thomas Jefferson, rather, I'm simply saying that we both believe in limited government to help secure our freedoms. Obviously you don't, unless you would care to expound on what your idea of limited government should be.
I'm also in favor of actually looking at the merits of proposals when they are actually made rather than jumping to hysterical conclusions like you do. As I said, I'll await the actual specifics of this one. But do shriek on about how this is part of the Obama administration's evil plans to take away all our freedoms.
Originally posted by no1marauderCan you expound on how you define limited government?
I'm all for limited government. I'm also, like Jefferson, in favor of an energetic, efficient government which deals with the concerns of the people.
I'm also in favor of actually looking at the merits of proposals when they are actually made rather than jumping to hysterical conclusions like you do. As I said, I'll await the actual spec ...[text shortened]... ut how this is part of the Obama administration's evil plans to take away all our freedoms.
Originally posted by whodeywhodey is right, and the haters are wrong.
Proving who they say they are? I think you may have hit it on the head. They want confirmation that what the things you do on the internet can be indisputably attached to your name. It has NOTHING to do with not wanting to memorize a myriad of passwords. All it is is an information tracking scheme.
because there already exists a non-governmental alternative to the proposed "governmental password manager".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID
OpenID is an open standard that describes how users can be authenticated in a decentralized manner, obviating the need for services to provide their own ad hoc systems and allowing users to consolidate their digital identities.[1]
The OpenID protocol does not rely on a central authority to authenticate a user's identity. Moreover, neither services nor the OpenID standard may mandate a specific means by which to authenticate users, allowing for approaches ranging from the common (such as passwords) to the novel (such as smart cards or biometrics).
The term OpenID may also refer to an ID as specified in the OpenID standard; these IDs take the form of a unique URL, and are managed by some 'OpenID provider' that handles authentication.[1]
OpenID authentication is now used and provided by several large websites. Providers include AOL, BBC,[2] Google,[3] IBM, MySpace, Orange, PayPal, VeriSign, LiveJournal, Yandex, Ustream and Yahoo!.[1][4][5][6]
Originally posted by zeeblebotHow can whodey possibly be "right" when the government hasn't proposed anything as of yet?
whodey is right, and the haters are wrong.
because there already exists a non-governmental alternative to the proposed "governmental password manager".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID
OpenID is an open standard that describes how users can be authenticated in a decentralized manner, obviating the need for services to provide their own ad hoc s ...[text shortened]... BM, MySpace, Orange, PayPal, VeriSign, LiveJournal, Yandex, Ustream and Yahoo!.[1][4][5][6]