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  1. 01 Feb '10 03:22
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/

    No. 6: Create an Advanced Manufacturing Fund to invest in peer-reviewed manufacturing processes

    No. 16: Increase minority access to capital

    No. 33: Establish a credit card bill of rights

    No. 36: Expand loan programs for small businesses

    No. 40: Extend and index the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax patch

    No. 50: Expand the Senior Corps volunteer program

    No. 58: Expand eligibility for State Children's Health Insurance Fund (SCHIP)

    No. 76: Expand funding to train primary care providers and public health practitioners

    No. 77: Increase funding to expand community based prevention programs

    No. 88: Sign the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities

    No. 110: Assure that the Veterans Administration budget is prepared as 'must-pass' legislation

    No. 119: Appoint a special adviser to the president on violence against women

    No. 125: Direct military leaders to end war in Iraq

    No. 132: No permanent bases in Iraq

    No. 134: Send two additional brigades to Afghanistan

    No. 154: Strengthen and expand military exchange programs with other countries

    No. 156: Make greater investment in advanced military air technology

    No. 167: Make U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional on anti-terror efforts

    No. 174: Give a speech at a major Islamic forum in the first 100 days of his administration

    No. 182: Allocate Homeland Security funding according to risk

    No. 184: Create a real National Infrastructure Protection Plan

    No. 188: Increase funding for local emergency planning

    No. 197: Stand down nuclear forces to be reduced under the Moscow Treaty

    No. 200: Appoint a White House Coordinator for Nuclear Security

    No. 204: Initiate a grant and training program for law enforcement to deter cyber crime

    No. 208: Improve relations with Turkey, and its relations with Iraqi Kurds

    No. 212: Launch an international Add Value to Agriculture Initiative (AVTA)

    No. 215: Create a rapid response fund for emerging democracies

    No. 222: Grant Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send money to Cuba

    No. 224: Restore funding for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant (Byrne/JAG) program

    No. 225: Establish an Energy Partnership for the Americas

    No. 239: Release presidential records

    No. 241: Require new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliation or contributions.

    No. 244: Provide affordable, high-quality child care

    No. 247: Recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession

    No. 266: Encourage water-conservation efforts in the West

    No. 269: Increase funding for national parks and forests

    No. 270: Increase funding for the Land and Water Conservation Fund

    No. 272: Encourage farmers to use more renewable energy and be more energy efficient

    No. 277: Pursue a wildfire management plan

    No. 278: Remove more brush, small trees and vegetation that fuel wildfires

    No. 279: More controlled burns to reduce wildfires

    No. 284: Expand access to places to hunt and fish

    No. 290: Push for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors

    No. 297: Restore funding to the EEOC and the U.S. Department of Labor's Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs

    No. 300: Reform mandatory minimum sentences

    No. 307: Create a White House Office on Urban Policy

    No. 310: Establish program to convert manufacturing centers into clean technology leaders

    No. 325: Create an artist corps for schools

    No. 326: Champion the importance of arts education

    No. 327: Support increased funding for the NEA

    No. 332: Add another Space Shuttle flight

    No. 334: Use the private sector to improve spaceflight

    No. 336: Partner to enhance the potential of the International Space Station

    No. 337: Use the International Space Station for fundamental biological and physical research

    No. 338: Explore whether International Space Station can operate after 2016

    No. 342: Work toward deploying a global climate change research and monitoring system

    No. 345: Enhance earth mapping

    No. 346: Appoint an assistant to the president for science and technology policy

    No. 356: Establish special crime programs for the New Orleans area

    No. 359: Rebuild schools in New Orleans

    No. 371: Fund a major expansion of AmeriCorps

    No. 377: Create a Social Investment Fund Network

    No. 380: Bolster the military's ability to speak different languages

    No. 391: Appoint the nation's first Chief Technology Officer

    No. 394: Provide grants to early-career researchers

    No. 411: Work to overturn Ledbetter vs. Goodyear

    No. 420: Create a national declassification center

    No. 421: Appoint an American Indian policy adviser

    No. 425: Increase funding for land-grant colleges

    No. 427: Ban lobbyist gifts to executive employees

    No. 435: Create new criminal penalties for mortgage fraud

    No. 452: Weatherize 1 million homes per year

    No. 458: Invest in all types of alternative energy

    No. 459: Enact tax credit for consumers for plug-in hybrid cars

    No. 460: Ask people and businesses to conserve electricity

    No. 466: Create a 'Green Vet Initiative' to promote environmental jobs for veterans

    No. 467: Create job training programs for clean technologies

    No. 475: Require states to provide incentives for utilities to reduce energy consumption

    No. 480: Support high-speed rail

    No. 483: Invest in public transportation

    No. 484: Equalize tax breaks for driving and public transit

    No. 494: Share enviromental technology with other countries

    No. 495: Double federal spending for research on clean fuels

    No. 498: Provide grants to encourage energy-efficient building codes

    No. 500: Increase funding for the Environmental Protection Agency

    No. 502: Get his daughters a puppy

    No. 503: Appoint at least one Republican to the cabinet

    No. 506: Raise the small business investment expensing limit to $250,000 through the end of 2009

    No. 507: Extend unemployment insurance benefits and temporarily suspend taxes on these benefits

    No. 513: Reverse restrictions on stem cell research
  2. 01 Feb '10 03:26 / 1 edit
    And of course, I would never source a partisan hack website so here is the complete list that include promises broken, compromised, stalled and not yet rated.

    http://www.politifact.com/
    Tracking Obama’s promises

    Promise Kept 91
    Compromise 33
    Promise Broken 15
    Stalled 87
    In the Works 275
    Not yet rated 2
  3. 01 Feb '10 03:41
    factcheck.org's not a partisan hack website?
  4. 01 Feb '10 03:44 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    factcheck.org's not a partisan hack website?
    Of course not. And this isn't facthceck.org, genius.
  5. 01 Feb '10 03:50
    USA_PT: "I would never source a partisan hack website".
  6. 01 Feb '10 03:54
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    USA_PT: "I would never source a partisan hack website".
    Then refer to the first part of my statement.
  7. 01 Feb '10 03:55
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact#Political_slant

    Political slant

    A study by Media Matters for America showed that the St. Petersburg Times was one of only four newspapers in Florida that featured more progressive opinions than conservative, with 43 percent of columnists considered progressive and 29 percent considered conservative.[5]
  8. 01 Feb '10 03:57
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Then refer to the first part of my statement.
    factcheck.org's modus operandi, based on a non-scientific survey:

    defend the democrats on the big-ticket items.

    throw a few bones to the republicans in order to appear "non-partisan".
  9. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    01 Feb '10 03:57
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    USA_PT: "I would never source a partisan hack website".
    I wonder if you intend to debate the OP?
  10. 01 Feb '10 04:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    I wonder if you intend to debate the OP?
    "Promises kept = 91" would seem to include "No. 502: Get his daughters a puppy ".
  11. 01 Feb '10 04:05
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/

    No. 6: Create an Advanced Manufacturing Fund to invest in peer-reviewed manufacturing processes

    No. 16: Increase minority access to capital

    No. 33: Establish a credit card bill of rights

    No. 36: Expand loan programs for small businesses

    No. 40: Extend and index th ...[text shortened]... y suspend taxes on these benefits

    No. 513: Reverse restrictions on stem cell research
    That is some list, but how many jobs has he created?
  12. 01 Feb '10 04:13 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    [b]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/

    No. 6: Create an Advanced Manufacturing Fund to invest in peer-reviewed manufacturing processes

    No. 16: Increase minority access to capital

    No. 33: Establish a credit card bill of rights

    No. 36: Expand loan programs for small businesses

    No. 40: Extend and index th y suspend taxes on these benefits

    No. 513: Reverse restrictions o
    Quite a list for me to check on, some I can see that you are right on. Some I am not sure have began yet, but have no reason not to think that they'll happen.
    The one item, encouraged companies to conserve on energy, was in place years ago, in two semi-conductor plants I worked in, so that is not exactly something new. Our office lighting was set to go off with no movement for periods of time, the parking lot was sized small to encourage bus, and bike travel. This happened 10 years ago.This Hynudai plant had state of the art air scrubbing systems, mandated by the state. German made Centrotherm. so that has been under way for two years, and is industry driven.
    I really agree with the expanding of hunting and fishing places, but where?
    A controlled burn would have help to save yellowstone
    The small business I see here in Eugene, are getting the bejesus beaten out of them by Walmart stores. All the strip malls are dead. Would more capitol help them? I don't thing they can match volume pricing. So, we all may be Walmart workers.
    Buy land in wyoming if Nuke power is coming hard. gas Hills and Jeffrey City mines have been closed down, but thee will be huge amounts of people needed at those two mines..

    So you want me to move him to a C+? Prove to me he's on the wagon, and not smoking while tring to pass this HealthCare Bill
  13. 01 Feb '10 17:41
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact#Political_slant

    Political slant

    A study by Media Matters for America showed that the St. Petersburg Times was one of only four newspapers in Florida that featured more progressive opinions than conservative, with 43 percent of columnists considered progressive and 29 percent considered conservative.[5]
    That doesn't necessarily mean politifact isn't accurate.
  14. 01 Feb '10 17:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    I wonder if you intend to debate the OP?
    well, we certainly know you don't.
  15. 01 Feb '10 17:42
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    "Promises kept = 91" would seem to include "No. 502: Get his daughters a puppy ".
    doesn't it count as a promise?