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OGRISH.COM - barbaric or just news?

OGRISH.COM - barbaric or just news?

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Websites such as ogrish.com that broadcast live real executions
of innocent people and the like, should they be put in the same
category as for instance child porn and banned form the net?
Videos of men paraded in front of the camera giving final speeches
with masked soldiers in the background and then decapitation scenes in, with warriors chanting Allah Akhbar, holding the head aloft is
perhaps too brutal and strong for most of the population.

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Originally posted by obliteration
Websites such as ogrish.com that broadcast live real executions
of innocent people and the like, should they be put in the same
category as for instance child porn and banned form the net?
Videos of men paraded in front of the camera giving final speeches
with masked soldiers in the background and then decapitation scenes in, with warriors chanting ...[text shortened]... lah Akhbar, holding the head aloft is
perhaps too brutal and strong for most of the population.
I think you have to have a pretty strong stomach to look at the average content of Ogrish, be it executions or deforemd babies. From what I've seen, it shouldn't be banned, but should carry a big fat warning of 'offensive material - not suitable for kids.'

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Originally posted by Acolyte
I think you have to have a pretty strong stomach to look at the average content of Ogrish, be it executions or deforemd babies. From what I've seen, it shouldn't be banned, but should carry a big fat warning of 'offensive material - not suitable for kids.'

The film is made illegally, so basically should be illegal material like child porn and filming of rape. I don't believe they should be shown by anyone.

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No, this web site is of crucial importance.

It allows people to witness the brutality and thugishness of religious fanatics.

Hopefully the world can unite in condemnation of disgraceful acts like these and the perpetrators will be brought to justice (i.e life imprisonment).

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Originally posted by howardgee
No, this web site is of crucial importance.

It allows people to witness the brutality and thugishness of religious fanatics.

Hopefully the world can unite in condemnation of disgraceful acts like these and the perpetrators will be brought to justice (i.e life imprisonment).
I still don't agree that it should be shown. It is like putting up a child porn video on a website and saying, "This should be shown because it shows how sick and twisted some people are." Any material that is made illegally should not be legal and destroyed.

We know they are brutal, sick and twisted and know what they did. Showing it is definately not necessary.

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Originally posted by lausey
I still don't agree that it should be shown. It is like putting up a child porn video on a website and saying, "This should be shown because it shows how sick and twisted some people are." Any material that is made illegally should not be legal and destroyed.

We know they are brutal, sick and twisted and know what they did. Showing it is definately not necessary.
Yeah, but you don't have to look at it. 😕

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Originally posted by Remora91
Yeah, but you don't have to look at it. 😕
Equally, you don't have to look at any other illegal content, but does that give people the right to distribute it?

I am not against porn, if they are created by people who are over 18 and everyone involved consented. I am talking about the illegal stuff. 😛

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Originally posted by howardgee
No, this web site is of crucial importance.

It allows people to witness the brutality and thugishness of religious fanatics.

Hopefully the world can unite in condemnation of disgraceful acts like these and the perpetrators will be brought to justice (i.e life imprisonment).
I can't believe it!..I actually agree with you...well said...🙂

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Ogrish will leave with a profound sense that humans are flawed to the very core. I have seen some (many) things on that site, but it's not something I want my kids to see, but I also don't feel it should be banned.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
I can't believe it!..I actually agree with you...well said...🙂
You see: some good has come of the existence of such macabre footage already!

Sworn enemies in agreement.

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Child porn is usually distributed for profit. Thus to own child pornography is seen to drive the demand for production. Therefore in the eyes of the law, owners of such images are an accessory to the crime.

In the case of beheadings by fanatics, their motivation is not profit. They would comit these unspeakable acts with or without distribution of the evidence.

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Originally posted by howardgee
Child porn is usually distributed for profit. Thus to own child pornography is seen to drive the demand for production. Therefore in the eyes of the law, owners of such images are an accessory to the crime.

In the case of beheadings by fanatics, their motivation is not profit. They would comit these unspeakable acts with or without distribution of the evidence.


Actually, good point, hmmm.....time for a rethink. 😀

As a side note, I am not a squimish person, I was seeing it on a moralistic point of view. Politically I think I am swaying otherwise now. 😛

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Ahhhh, but does that mean you agree with child porn being distributed for free????? (if someone was so inclined to do so)

Disclaimer: I don't believe you would actually want child porn distributed for free, but based on your arguments above, it would suggest that.

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lausey you have made a very good point. Don't give up.

What if the terrorists kidnapped raped sodomized and murdered children on video.

Should that be shown or not?

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Originally posted by gumbie
lausey you have made a very good point. Don't give up.

What if the terrorists kidnapped raped sodomized and murdered children on video.

Should that be shown or not?

You are right, they should not be shown. As I realised when I made my follow-up post after thinking about it.

People might argue that the law isn't necessarily right, but laws are put in place for good reasons. Whether a law is correct or not is a matter of another debate.