"Trump is expected to state that major U.S. objectives have been achieved (such as neutralizing Iran's nuclear capabilities and weakening its military/navy), that the war is "winding down," and that U.S. forces could exit the region "very soon" (within 2–3 weeks) or "pretty quickly," with or without a formal deal."
Are we supposed to accept that? Last year he said Iran's nuclear capabilities were obliterated. How do we know he will not bomb them next year claiming he was wrong again? Obliterated. Neutralized. He could say non existent and change his mind again. Because people seem to be that stupid. 40% of people anyway. So I guess 60% of people are being held hostage by the other 40%. What happened to accountability? Even democrats let Trump slide on this BS. Where is Adam Schiff? I thought he was super eager to stick it to Trump, but not over obvious BS lies about war? I guess Schiff is secretly on team Trump since he is in hiding.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-nation-important-update-iran-war-what-will-he-say
"Reopening the Strait of Hormuz - He is likely to shift responsibility for securing oil traffic and reopening the strait to European allies and Gulf countries, while expressing frustration with NATO partners for insufficient support (and has even floated pulling the U.S. out of NATO)."
This is making oil prices fall? Why? Just because Trump said he would end the war? How? How is he going to make Iran stop waging war? Remember when Trump said the war was over? Was it over? No.
Are investors stupid? Ending the war will not open the Strait of Hormuz and Trump has said he will end the war without opening the Strait of Hormuz if necessary, so why would oil prices plummet like he said? It makes no sense at all. And why are democrats so silent on this obvious flaw in Trumpness. Is it because they are just glad oil prices are dropping because of his lies? And if lies drive down oil prices so easily what does that say about the intelligence of investors?
How does anybody know Trump is telling the truth about ending the war? Never mind the fact that it takes both sides to end the war. He could just be lying again to lower oil prices and put troops on the ground when he gets enough in place to start a ground war. Has that possibility not been priced into the oil market? And if not is that because investors are stupid?
Stupid investors are determining the price of oil? That is how the world works? Isn't market manipulation a better explanation? The elites are dumping oil after pumping it up. Does that make any less sense than oil is driven by stupid investors?
Here is a suggestion. Maybe, just maybe.... investors are not stupid and the common people in general are.
@Metal-Brain saidInvestors want the money, not the oil, and they also don't care if prices are going up or down only whether they are on the right side of the prediction. Each time it goes up and down, some are winners and some are losers. I don't think it's a fair bet to lump them all in as smart. Some are obviously losing.
"Trump is expected to state that major U.S. objectives have been achieved (such as neutralizing Iran's nuclear capabilities and weakening its military/navy), that the war is "winding down," and that U.S. forces could exit the region "very soon" (within 2–3 weeks) or "pretty quickly," with or without a formal deal."
Are we supposed to accept that? Last year he said Iran ...[text shortened]... s a suggestion. Maybe, just maybe.... investors are not stupid and the common people in general are.
What do you think of the trading trends where enormous spikes in oil trading happens right before Trump tweets something? Do you think someone in his family or circle is directly profiting from the wild fluctuations?
@wildgrass saidBelieving a pathological liar is somehow now telling the truth is smart? He told us some unnamed leaders in Iran were begging for a deal for days and now it is obvious that was a lie like all the other lies he has told since he started this war. Iran denied any direct talks had happened which was obviously true.
Investors want the money, not the oil, and they also don't care if prices are going up or down only whether they are on the right side of the prediction. Each time it goes up and down, some are winners and some are losers. I don't think it's a fair bet to lump them all in as smart. Some are obviously losing.
What do you think of the trading trends where enormous spikes i ...[text shortened]... hing? Do you think someone in his family or circle is directly profiting from the wild fluctuations?
But now oil has spiked because Trump is escalating the war.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uae-poised-join-anti-iran-operations-trump-rips-nato-paper-tiger-says-exit-beyond
It is obvious to me that insider trading is rampant and it needs to be stopped. This is just another form of class warfare. The elites with all of the money are profiting from insider trading while the little guy gets screwed. And Trump could still put troops on the ground in 2 or 3 weeks. That might be the plan. Why would any smart person dismiss this possibility after Iran was bombed twice in the middle of negotiations? It is Trump's MO to deceive and attack.
@wildgrass
Yesterday Trump said the war would be over in 2 or 3 weeks.
Now he says there is no timeline. He is lying several times a day blatantly contradicting himself. And since he has escalated bigly he must still be planning a ground war.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tell-wary-public-that-iran-war-goals-have-been-accomplished-prime-time-2026-04-01/
Why have the democrats gone soft on Trump? Why has their hatred for Trump gone in remission? I think Jimmy Fallon is harder on Trump than any democrats are. Can you explain why democrats are holding back from making fun of all of his contradictory statements to expose his many lies when it has never been easier without concluding the democrats are just as corrupt as the republicans?
Democrats will not be hard on Trump because they know their campaign funding will dry up. 60% of Americans are against this war. Democrats will not stand up for the majority. They are beholden to their wealthiest campaign donors. The system is corrupted.
Americans are overwhelmingly against a ground war. I think only 17% support a ground war. Trump is lying about that too. He is going to put boots on the ground. He only said he was not because it is so unpopular. He is not ending the war either. Nobody escalates a war and expects that to wind down a war.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tell-wary-public-that-iran-war-goals-have-been-accomplished-prime-time-2026-04-01/
You can bet Iran does not believe anything Trump says. Why would investors? Are they stupid? Do we need to hire Iranians to be our investment managers? Do you believe Trump does not intend to put troops on the ground? You are not that gullible, are you?
Trump and Rubio intend a ground war. They just don't want to say so because only 17% will not complain he is sucking us into another forever war and how it is an America last policy that will be insanely expensive. Prepare for hyperinflation. We are all about to get shagged in the rear.
@wildgrass saidUnknown traders bet $760m on oil prices dropping minutes before Hormuz reopened.
Investors want the money, not the oil, and they also don't care if prices are going up or down only whether they are on the right side of the prediction. Each time it goes up and down, some are winners and some are losers. I don't think it's a fair bet to lump them all in as smart. Some are obviously losing.
What do you think of the trading trends where enormous spikes i ...[text shortened]... hing? Do you think someone in his family or circle is directly profiting from the wild fluctuations?
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/37214
Reuters previously reported that around $950 million in similar bets were placed on 7 April, just hours before a two-week ceasefire between Iran and the US was announced.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-probes-suspicious-oil-trades-made-before-trump-iran-pivots-source-says-2026-04-15/
A similar pattern was reported earlier in March, when $580 million in oil futures were traded minutes before US President Donald Trump posted about “productive conversations” with Tehran, which triggered a sharp sell-off in crude prices.
https://www.ft.com/content/1171d623-3709-4f6e-8ded-a5df4ec57696?syn-25a6b1a6=1
@Metal-Brain saidYeah, now we know why the madness of Hormuz opens, closes, opens, closes over and over.
Unknown traders bet $760m on oil prices dropping minutes before Hormuz reopened.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/37214
Reuters previously reported that around $950 million in similar bets were placed on 7 April, just hours before a two-week ceasefire between Iran and the US was announced.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-probes-suspicious-oil-trades-m ...[text shortened]... f in crude prices.
https://www.ft.com/content/1171d623-3709-4f6e-8ded-a5df4ec57696?syn-25a6b1a6=1
There's a level of insider trading happening now unlike anything ever seen.
@wildgrass saidYep. And the corporate news media will not report it on the TV news. The elites have full control of this country and Trump is their puppet.
Yeah, now we know why the madness of Hormuz opens, closes, opens, closes over and over.
There's a level of insider trading happening now unlike anything ever seen.
Iran has never invaded another country. The assertion that Iran would use a nuke first is absurd propaganda. The supreme leader said this and that nearly 50 years ago. That is all it is based on. What about what Trump says daily like destroy a civilization? Some people thought that was a threat to nuke Iran.
The corporate news media will not have anybody on TV pointing out what I am. They instead bring on Elise Stafenik to repeat propaganda talking points with the reward of allowing her to promote her book. She said Iran was guilty of terrorism by proxy as if Israel is not the USA's proxy. As if Ukraine is not a USA proxy.
Well now Iran is Russia and China's proxy to stick it to the US military and Trump. Who doesn't have a proxy? This is the proxy age. Something the corporate news media will never bring up.
Iran never threatened to nuke anybody. Trump threatened to nuke North Korea. Again, propaganda by omission. We are not allowed to hear that side of the story. Elise Stafenik will not talk about Operation Ajax and nobody will ask her about it on the news. That is forbidden.
How does anybody know Trump is telling the truth about ending the war? Never mind the fact that it takes both sides to end the war. He could just be lying again to lower oil prices and put troops on the ground when he gets enough in place to start a ground war. Has that possibility not been priced into the oil market? And if not is that because investors are stupid?There's an old truism. The market acts irrationally longer than you may have funds to be in it.
Stupid investors are determining the price of oil? That is how the world works? Isn't market manipulation a better explanation?
Volatility leads to herd mentality. Predicting the herd is a pure gamble. Fear of missing out and riding a loser are two powerful psychological factors that drive market action more than any strategy.
So yes you are essentially correct. Not just oil but any oversubscribed market that starts to bubble acts stupidly. Trying to predict stupid is more of a crap shoot than any skill.
@kmax87 saidYou must have overlooked my post proving insider trading.
There's an old truism. The market acts irrationally longer than you may have funds to be in it.
Volatility leads to herd mentality. Predicting the herd is a pure gamble. Fear of missing out and riding a loser are two powerful psychological factors that drive market action more than any strategy.
So yes you are essentially correct. Not just oil but any oversubscribed ma ...[text shortened]... hat starts to bubble acts stupidly. Trying to predict stupid is more of a crap shoot than any skill.
@Metal-Brain saidInsider trading would only be a very small circle of traders. For all the traders outside of that inner circle, what motivates their trades? Or are you saying the rest of the market packs up and goes home? The rest of the market will still act around those on the inside, with herd mentality manifesting itself as a huge influence on market action.
You must have overlooked my post proving insider trading.