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Oil market moves by stupidity?

Oil market moves by stupidity?

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"Trump is expected to state that major U.S. objectives have been achieved (such as neutralizing Iran's nuclear capabilities and weakening its military/navy), that the war is "winding down," and that U.S. forces could exit the region "very soon" (within 2–3 weeks) or "pretty quickly," with or without a formal deal."

Are we supposed to accept that? Last year he said Iran's nuclear capabilities were obliterated. How do we know he will not bomb them next year claiming he was wrong again? Obliterated. Neutralized. He could say non existent and change his mind again. Because people seem to be that stupid. 40% of people anyway. So I guess 60% of people are being held hostage by the other 40%. What happened to accountability? Even democrats let Trump slide on this BS. Where is Adam Schiff? I thought he was super eager to stick it to Trump, but not over obvious BS lies about war? I guess Schiff is secretly on team Trump since he is in hiding.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-nation-important-update-iran-war-what-will-he-say

"Reopening the Strait of Hormuz - He is likely to shift responsibility for securing oil traffic and reopening the strait to European allies and Gulf countries, while expressing frustration with NATO partners for insufficient support (and has even floated pulling the U.S. out of NATO)."

This is making oil prices fall? Why? Just because Trump said he would end the war? How? How is he going to make Iran stop waging war? Remember when Trump said the war was over? Was it over? No.

Are investors stupid? Ending the war will not open the Strait of Hormuz and Trump has said he will end the war without opening the Strait of Hormuz if necessary, so why would oil prices plummet like he said? It makes no sense at all. And why are democrats so silent on this obvious flaw in Trumpness. Is it because they are just glad oil prices are dropping because of his lies? And if lies drive down oil prices so easily what does that say about the intelligence of investors?

How does anybody know Trump is telling the truth about ending the war? Never mind the fact that it takes both sides to end the war. He could just be lying again to lower oil prices and put troops on the ground when he gets enough in place to start a ground war. Has that possibility not been priced into the oil market? And if not is that because investors are stupid?

Stupid investors are determining the price of oil? That is how the world works? Isn't market manipulation a better explanation? The elites are dumping oil after pumping it up. Does that make any less sense than oil is driven by stupid investors?

Here is a suggestion. Maybe, just maybe.... investors are not stupid and the common people in general are.


@Metal-Brain said
"Trump is expected to state that major U.S. objectives have been achieved (such as neutralizing Iran's nuclear capabilities and weakening its military/navy), that the war is "winding down," and that U.S. forces could exit the region "very soon" (within 2–3 weeks) or "pretty quickly," with or without a formal deal."

Are we supposed to accept that? Last year he said Iran ...[text shortened]... s a suggestion. Maybe, just maybe.... investors are not stupid and the common people in general are.
Investors want the money, not the oil, and they also don't care if prices are going up or down only whether they are on the right side of the prediction. Each time it goes up and down, some are winners and some are losers. I don't think it's a fair bet to lump them all in as smart. Some are obviously losing.

What do you think of the trading trends where enormous spikes in oil trading happens right before Trump tweets something? Do you think someone in his family or circle is directly profiting from the wild fluctuations?

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@wildgrass said
Investors want the money, not the oil, and they also don't care if prices are going up or down only whether they are on the right side of the prediction. Each time it goes up and down, some are winners and some are losers. I don't think it's a fair bet to lump them all in as smart. Some are obviously losing.

What do you think of the trading trends where enormous spikes i ...[text shortened]... hing? Do you think someone in his family or circle is directly profiting from the wild fluctuations?
Believing a pathological liar is somehow now telling the truth is smart? He told us some unnamed leaders in Iran were begging for a deal for days and now it is obvious that was a lie like all the other lies he has told since he started this war. Iran denied any direct talks had happened which was obviously true.

But now oil has spiked because Trump is escalating the war.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uae-poised-join-anti-iran-operations-trump-rips-nato-paper-tiger-says-exit-beyond

It is obvious to me that insider trading is rampant and it needs to be stopped. This is just another form of class warfare. The elites with all of the money are profiting from insider trading while the little guy gets screwed. And Trump could still put troops on the ground in 2 or 3 weeks. That might be the plan. Why would any smart person dismiss this possibility after Iran was bombed twice in the middle of negotiations? It is Trump's MO to deceive and attack.


@wildgrass
Yesterday Trump said the war would be over in 2 or 3 weeks.
Now he says there is no timeline. He is lying several times a day blatantly contradicting himself. And since he has escalated bigly he must still be planning a ground war.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tell-wary-public-that-iran-war-goals-have-been-accomplished-prime-time-2026-04-01/

Why have the democrats gone soft on Trump? Why has their hatred for Trump gone in remission? I think Jimmy Fallon is harder on Trump than any democrats are. Can you explain why democrats are holding back from making fun of all of his contradictory statements to expose his many lies when it has never been easier without concluding the democrats are just as corrupt as the republicans?

Democrats will not be hard on Trump because they know their campaign funding will dry up. 60% of Americans are against this war. Democrats will not stand up for the majority. They are beholden to their wealthiest campaign donors. The system is corrupted.

Americans are overwhelmingly against a ground war. I think only 17% support a ground war. Trump is lying about that too. He is going to put boots on the ground. He only said he was not because it is so unpopular. He is not ending the war either. Nobody escalates a war and expects that to wind down a war.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tell-wary-public-that-iran-war-goals-have-been-accomplished-prime-time-2026-04-01/

You can bet Iran does not believe anything Trump says. Why would investors? Are they stupid? Do we need to hire Iranians to be our investment managers? Do you believe Trump does not intend to put troops on the ground? You are not that gullible, are you?

Trump and Rubio intend a ground war. They just don't want to say so because only 17% will not complain he is sucking us into another forever war and how it is an America last policy that will be insanely expensive. Prepare for hyperinflation. We are all about to get shagged in the rear.

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