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    24 Nov '13 01:54
    Originally posted by DanTriola
    Not at all.
    George HW Bush was involved in both!
    " Australian investigator Colin McLaren created a 90-minute documentary and book [17] based on and supporting Donahue's theory, both titled JFK: The Smoking Gun. The documentary aired on Australian and American television on November 3, 2013.[18][19][20] The documentary features re-enactments, archival footage, and new interviews with Menninger, with Donahue's daughter, and with witnesses to the shooting. A one-hour abridged version of this documentary aired in the UK on November 13, 2013, entitled JFK's Secret Killer: The Evidence.[21]

    McLaren reconstructs Donahue's ballistics tests as described in Mortal Error, placing the second gunman exactly where Agent Hickey was positioned.

    To back up the accidental shot theory, the programme showed a photograph of Agent Hickey holding up an AR-15 while stood inside a Secret Service follow-up car, speeding behind the Presidential limousine as Secret Service Agent Clint Hill holds onto its rear. [22] Finding this photograph was crucial to Donahue's decision to publish his work and was used on the front cover of his book.

    The programme also stated that bullet fragments found inside President Kennedy's skull, resulting from the catastrophic head-shot, proved this third bullet disintegrated on impact, contrary to the ballistics evidence of Oswald's second shot, which travelled straight through the President and into Governor Connally. Other circumstantial evidence put forward by the programme stated how an agitated Secret Service chief James Rowley admitted, at the Warren Commission, that AR-15s were no longer used by his organisation inside protection vehicles since the assassination; and also that classified Secret Service documents on the assassination were destroyed just one week prior to being handed over to the Assassination Records Review Board in 1995.

    Further to all evidence put forward by the programme, no explanation was given as to why no witnesses in Dealey Plaza ever testified or publicly stated they heard or saw a gunshot coming from the Presidential motorcade immediately in front of them.

    Donahue died in 1999.[23][24] In the documentary, his daughter says he was always surprised that his work received so little attention. At the time of his death he was working on another book on the same topic."
    Wikipedia...Mortal Error. The shot that killed JFK.
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    24 Nov '13 01:561 edit
    Originally posted by kmax87
    " Australian investigator Colin McLaren created a 90-minute documentary and book [17] based on and supporting Donahue's theory, both titled JFK: The Smoking Gun. The documentary aired on Australian and American television on November 3, 2013.[18][19][20] The documentary features re-enactments, archival footage, and new interviews with Menninger, with Donahue' ...[text shortened]... working on another book on the same topic."
    Wikipedia...Mortal Error. The shot that killed JFK.
    Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK is a 1992 non-fiction book by Bonar Menninger describing a theory by sharpshooter, gunsmith and ballistics expert Howard Donahue that a Secret Service agent accidentally fired the shot that actually killed President John F. Kennedy
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    24 Nov '13 05:16
    Originally posted by DanTriola
    Some days I think he did. Some days I don't.
    But I'm almost sure it was Johnson who got RFK.
    You're welcome. And welcome to the forums. They've benefitted from your arrival.
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    24 Nov '13 06:54
    Originally posted by DanTriola
    Not at all.
    George HW Bush was involved in both!
    Yep the cia man.
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    26 Nov '13 12:24
    Originally posted by whodey
    Was JFK the last democrat that resembled a conservative?

    He lowered taxes and fought to keep down debt. He wanted us to ask what we can do for our country, rather than what our country can do for us. He even opposed the Fed via executive order 11110.

    There is no doubt about it, JFK had to die, so that LBJ could get in there and wage war in Vietnam, ra ...[text shortened]... nt crippling entitlements that led to fiat currency during the Nixon administration via the Fed.
    Ask what you can do for your country? Pay tax to support the poor, especially if you're rich.

    JFK certainly wasn't a conservative. He advocated a top marginal tax cut from 90% to 70% (which was reasonable, unlike the Reagan and Bush-Cheney tax cuts for the rich) due to having trouble getting domestic spending through Congress. The tax cut passed under LBJ in 1965, and also cut taxes substantially for the poor and middle-class.

    Both the tax cut and intended domestic spending were aimed at deficit spending, though they had the paradigm wrong. It is redistributive spending, rather than deficit spending per se, that stimulates the economy, especially when wealth and income disparity is too large (as it is presently, by far).
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    26 Nov '13 12:49
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    LBJ had him capped
    Here's my theory. LBJ was innocent (though complicit in the Warren Commission cover-up), but Nixon and Reagan were involved in the conspiracy to assassinate JFK. Jack Ruby said that the goal of the conspiracy was to usher in a "new form of government", which is exactly what happened when the Southern Strategy broke the New Deal coalition by attracting racist white voters to the Republicans, exploiting the backlash against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Reagan opened his 1980 campaign by courting and receiving a KKK endorsement, then telling white voters that the government shouldn't spend their tax dollars on helping African-American welfare beneficiaries.

    JFK's assassination and the fabricated Gulf of Tonkin incident were initially intended to goad LBJ into escalating the Vietnam war, which JFK would have resisted, just as he resisted invading Cuba and the like. Escalating the Vietnam war put strain on the New Deal coalition, plus it made profit for the military-industrial complex. After the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, though, the conspirators saw the backlash amongst white voters, and exploited it to break the New Deal coalition.

    The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated because he made African-Americans look civilized during the 1968 campaign, while Nixon was playing on "restore law and order" to attract white voters who were disaffected by seeing rioting by blacks on TV.

    Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated after winning the California primary, because he'd have been a much stronger front-runner for the Democratic Party in 1968, compared to LBJ or Hubert Humphrey. RFK could have held the progressive base together, due to his anti-war stance at a time when the Vietnam war was deeply unpopular and divided the Democratic base. RFK was also very popular with African-Americans; he gave a speech after MLK's assassination, and there was no rioting in the city where he gave the speech to blacks.

    Nixon blackmailed George Wallace into not running a third-party campaign in 1972 (this is established fact, not conspiracy theory). Wallace instead entered the Democratic primary and was the front-runner. The assassination attempt on George Wallace ended his political career due to crippling injury, thus opening the way for Nixon and Reagan to implement the Southern Strategy without a third-party candidate taking racist white voter off the Republicans.

    The Chappaquiddick incident conveniently ended the political ambitions of Ted Kennedy, Nixon's #1 enemy on his "enemies list". There were two assassination attempts against Gerald Ford leading up to the 1976 election; if Ford had been assassinated, Reagan would most likely have won the 1976 election. The conspirators naturally didn't know at this point that Reagan would end up getting an opening in 1980, due to the poor state of the economy, plus Reagan and co. sabotaging the release of the Iranian hostages. (Later, Reagan was involved in Iran-Contra.)
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