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Since the Peel Commission in 1936, there have been a total of 15 attempts to create a state for Palestinian Arabs alongside of Israel. The British, the UN, the Israelis, Arab leaders, and the USA have all put forward plans for peace between Israel and the Arab world that included a state for the Palestinian Arabs.

Why wouldn't these options have been taken?

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Originally posted by Seitse
Since the Peel Commission in 1936, there have been a total of 15 attempts to create a state for Palestinian Arabs alongside of Israel. The British, the UN, the Israelis, Arab leaders, and the USA have all put forward plans for peace between Israel and the Arab world that included a state for the Palestinian Arabs.

Why wouldn't these options have been taken?
Because none of them were viable, and/or there were massive strings attached.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Because none of them were viable, and/or there were massive strings attached.
Please elaborate.

We all know that either you are senile or you like to mix things at your convenience. So I expect an analysis of each initiative to back up your sad generalization.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Since the Peel Commission in 1936, there have been a total of 15 attempts to create a state for Palestinian Arabs alongside of Israel. The British, the UN, the Israelis, Arab leaders, and the USA have all put forward plans for peace between Israel and the Arab world that included a state for the Palestinian Arabs.

Why wouldn't these options have been taken?
why would you want to 'create a state for Palestinian arabs' why not give them back the land they already had?

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I will help you, you brave and corageous builder of Scottish socialism through RHP posting, lol

1. The Peel Commission, set up in 1936 during the British Mandate. In 1937, Lord Earl Peel recommended c. 85% of Mandatory Palestine to the Arabs, and c. 15% to the Jews. The Jewish section would be that part of the country that had the most Jewish settlements, along the coastal plain, between Tel Aviv and Haifa, and part of the Galilee. Jewish Response: positive. Arab Response: a 2.5-year war against the Jews and the British, with hundreds of Jews and British killed, and c. 10,000 Arab casualties at the hands of British troops (Israel then had no organized armed forces).

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Originally posted by SALADIN
why would you want to 'create a state for Palestinian arabs' why not give them back the land they already had?
You know that is impossible, Saladin. Let's focus on contemporary efforts because their co-existence is, IMO, the only feasible option nowadays. Don't you think?

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Originally posted by Seitse
Please elaborate.

We all know that either you are senile or you like to mix things at your convenience. So I expect an analysis of each initiative to back up your sad generalization.
You can expect all you want.

There has never been a single offer of a viable state made to the Palestinians.

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Originally posted by Seitse
I will help you, you brave and corageous builder of Scottish socialism through RHP posting, lol

1. The Peel Commission, set up in 1936 during the British Mandate. In 1937, Lord Earl Peel recommended c. 85% of Mandatory Palestine to the Arabs, and c. 15% to the Jews. The Jewish section would be that part of the country that had the most Jewish settlements, ...[text shortened]... ,000 Arab casualties at the hands of British troops (Israel then had no organized armed forces).
The 20th Zionist Congress rejected this proposal. Learn some basic facts.

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Originally posted by Redmike
You can expect all you want.

There has never been a single offer of a viable state made to the Palestinians.
I am waiting for your scholarly analysis on each one, in order to back up YOUR generalization.

Go on, Reddie boy, construction of socialism in Scotland can survive without your help.

We are waiting.

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2. The UN Partition Plan (UN Resolution # 181) gave the Palestinian Arabs their state on 11/29/47. The same UN declaration that gave c. 20% of Mandatory Palestine to the State of Israel for the Palestinian Jews also declared that the remaining c. 80% would be the State of Palestine for the Palestinian Arabs west of the Jordan river and the Hashemite Emirate to the east of the Jordan river. Jewish Response: The Palestinian Jews were ecstatic and declared their state. Arab Response: a 15-month war of annihilation against Israel. Arab Palestine was occupied by the armies of 8 Arab nations. From there they launched their attacks on Israel, starting Israel’s war of independence. Against all odds, Israel won. In its defensive war, it occupied much of the land intended for the Palestinian Arabs.

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Originally posted by Seitse
2. The UN Partition Plan (UN Resolution # 181) gave the Palestinian Arabs their state on 11/29/47. The same UN declaration that gave c. 20% of Mandatory Palestine to the State of Israel for the Palestinian Jews also declared that the remaining c. 80% would be the State of Palestine for the Palestinian Arabs west of the Jordan river and the Hashemite Emirate ...[text shortened]... rael won. In its defensive war, it occupied much of the land intended for the Palestinian Arabs.
How can you end up with more land than you started with in a 'defensive war'?

And you claim you're not a zionist. Yeah right.

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Originally posted by Redmike
The 20th Zionist Congress rejected this proposal. Learn some basic facts.
Stop getting your pitiful facts from www.palestineremembered.com

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Originally posted by Redmike
How can you end up with more land than you started with in a 'defensive war'?

And you claim you're not a zionist. Yeah right.
You are just either (a) full of hatred against Israel, or (b) stupid.

Choose.

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Originally posted by Seitse
You are just either (a) full of hatred against Israel, or (b) stupid.

Choose.
c) more aware of elementary Middle East politics than you are

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3. The Rhodes Armistice Talks, 1949: The Israeli negotiators indicated that “everything was negotiable” in exchange for political recognition, negotiations, and peace.

NOTE: The Palestinian territory that Israel did not capture, rather than becoming a Palestinian State, remained in the hands of the occupying powers of Egypt (Gaza strip), and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (West Bank), in defiance of the UN partition plan and international law. In 1950, King Abdullah of Jordan annexed the West Bank, in defiance of international law, the UN, and the 4th Geneva Convention, and made it officially a part of his kingdom.

During the almost twenty years of Jordanian rule, did some Palestinian group attempted to exercise the UN-given right to create their own state?

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