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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6392151.stm


At least four Palestinians have been killed and nearly 20 hurt in the Gaza Strip in fresh violence between backers of the rival Hamas and Fatah factions.

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Oh my... again?!?!

They will kill among each other before a person without AK-47 and skimasks sits at the negotiation table.

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Much as I'd hate to break up your little double-act taking delight in Palestinians killing each other, I think you'll find that this isn't a fight between Hamas and Fatah.

The phrase 'Official Fatah units did not get involved in the fighting...' being a bit of a clue.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Much as I'd hate to break up your little double-act taking delight in Palestinians killing each other, I think you'll find that this isn't a fight between Hamas and Fatah.

The phrase 'Official Fatah units did not get involved in the fighting...' being a bit of a clue.
They didn't didn't say that about Hamas though, which tells me that Hamas members took part in this, so Hamas is still fighting a civil war.

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Originally posted by Merk
They didn't didn't say that about Hamas though, which tells me that Hamas members took part in this, so Hamas is still fighting a civil war.
I'm not disputing that Hamas was involved. Of course they were.

Not sure I agree they're still fighting a civil war though.

But this isn't a breach of the truce, despite what your thread title might suggest.

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Originally posted by Redmike
I'm not disputing that Hamas was involved. Of course they were.

Not sure I agree they're still fighting a civil war though.

But this isn't a breach of the truce, despite what your thread title might suggest.
I'm thinking it's still civil war even though Fatah wasn't officially involve. Just because the people fighting Hamas aren't officially part of any group makes little difference in that regard. In my way of thinking at least.

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Originally posted by Merk
I'm thinking it's still civil war even though Fatah wasn't officially involve. Just because the people fighting Hamas aren't officially part of any group makes little difference in that regard. In my way of thinking at least.
Whether Hamas are fighting a civil war or not isn't really the point.

The truce between Hamas and Fatah hasn't been breached.

I think there's going to be some degree of fighting for a while, if nothing else until scores are settled etc.

I don't think this affects the stability of the truce or the government.

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Originally posted by Redmike

I think there's going to be some degree of fighting for a while, if nothing else until scores are settled etc.
But hasn't that ALWAYS been one of the larger problems in the Middle East as a whole? The scores are never settled.

How can anyone have a truce (much less peace) when each "score" must be settled, and in some cases "upped" by the other side?

Sorry to wander into a larger topic here, but I believe the incident in the first post is a perfect example of why the larger problem of violence in the Mid East never goes away. They're constantly picking at their sores....

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Originally posted by wib
But hasn't that ALWAYS been one of the larger problems in the Middle East as a whole? The scores are never settled.

How can anyone have a truce (much less peace) when each "score" must be settled, and in some cases "upped" by the other side?

Sorry to wander into a larger topic here, but I believe the incident in the first post is a perfect example of w ...[text shortened]... f violence in the Mid East never goes away. They're constantly picking at their sores....
I'm not arguing that this isn't a bad thing.

All I'm saying is that this isn't a break-down of the truce between Hamas and Fatah.

This might be Hamas settling a score, but not with Fatah.

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