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@eye-of-horus-42 said
If Ukraine must pay back to USA the war aid to defend themselves from Russian invasion,dose USA demands from Israel to pay back all the money since 1948 for defence of Israel????
A very fair question to ask, and I wish it had stayed on-topic, but unfortunately I think this forum attracts some drunks who just like to spout off and make "clever" remarks that don't really contribute to the discussion.

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@Arkturos: Thanks for your response,I notice that and you're so right,I wish more people as you ,will take part in intelligent debate.

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@eye-of-horus-42 said
If Ukraine must pay back to USA the war aid to defend themselves from Russian invasion,dose USA demands from Israel to pay back all the money since 1948 for defence of Israel????
I would also like to know, even in raw transactional terms involving just the individual countries, and forgetting (for now) about secondary and tertiary ramifications (as Trump seems to be doing).

What has Israel ever done for us? (I'm sure there are some here better informed than me about that.)

Is Ukraine the Sudetenland of the 2020s?

Edit: I wondered why Israel hasn't been more involved in the defense of Ukraine (that I know of), but now I see that the Jewish population of Ukraine has been greatly reduced over time.

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@eye-of-horus-42 said
@Suzianne: So, you pretend to get involved in debates, with such a remark?? or you got problem with your brain????'
Do you think we're having a debate?

I was saying that you have a point, that's all.

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@Arkturos said
I would also like to know, even in raw transactional terms involving just the individual countries, and forgetting (for now) about secondary and tertiary ramifications (as Trump seems to be doing).

What has Israel ever done for us? (I'm sure there are some here better informed than me about that.)

Is Ukraine the Sudetenland of the 2020s?

Edit: I wondered why Israel ...[text shortened]... I know of), but now I see that the Jewish population of Ukraine has been greatly reduced over time.
No, that was Crimea.

Ukraine is the rest of Czechoslovakia.

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@Arkturos said
A very fair question to ask, and I wish it had stayed on-topic, but unfortunately I think this forum attracts some drunks who just like to spout off and make "clever" remarks that don't really contribute to the discussion.
The irony here is tangible.

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@Suzianne said
The irony here is tangible.
Fair, but my posts are much better written than yours and I can string more than a few words together at a time. 😉

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@Arkturos said
Fair, but my posts are much better written than yours and I can string more than a few words together at a time. 😉
Regardless of meaning. Yes.

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@Suzianne said
Regardless of meaning. Yes.
I'm glad things seem to be winding down, because it seems our 50 minutes are up. 😉

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@eye-of-horus-42 said
@Suzianne: So, you pretend to get involved in debates, with such a remark?? or you got problem with your brain????'
You mean you expect to be taken seriously? Your hero Trump said Zelenskyy got THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY BILLION IN AID. It was actually less than half that, 117 billion.

AND no money went to Ukraine. It went to people making the weapons right here in the US, Not ONE PENNY went to Ukraine.

So Trump just lies every time he opens his mouth and we are supposed to take a trumpite like you seriously?

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@Arkturos said
Vanishingly few, I would imagine at the moment.

Maybe Trump is aiming for something like the CoDominium first imagined by Jerry Pournelle in the early 1970s?
Well surely Russia will have our backs if we are attacked since we seem to be allies now, right?

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