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  1. Subscriber mchill
    Infinitorum
    13 Feb '18 18:35 / 2 edits
    To visit the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the granite, slate and cast iron edifice across West Executive Avenue from the White House where most of the president’s staff works, at times feels like walking through a ghost town. The hallways do not bustle as much as in past administrations. The budget director is doing double duty as the acting head of the consumer protection agency. The personnel director is doing triple duty, also overseeing the offices of political affairs and public liaison.

    “We have vacancies on top of vacancies,” said Kathryn Dunn Tenpas, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who has studied White House turnover over the last six administrations. “You have initial vacancies, you have people who left in the first year and now you have people who are leaving in the second year.”

    This chaotic and disorganized administration is basically clueless on how to conduct the affairs of our Federal Government, and worse, they simply don't care. The man at the top is primarily concerned with making speeches, bragging about himself, and escaping prosecution in the Mueller investigation.

    Some administration officials privately spend much of their time trying to figure out how to leave without looking disloyal or provoking an easily angered president. Others, like Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, stubbornly resist what seem like clear signals that they are no longer welcome.

    Those who leave tell friends and associates horror stories that do not help with recruitment. Omarosa Manigault Newman, a former contestant on Mr. Trump’s reality TV show “The Apprentice” who worked in the White House until Mr. Kelly pushed her out in December, cried as she described her experiences during a new episode of “The Celebrity Big Brother” that aired on CBS last week.

    “So I’m there fighting, fighting, fighting, getting my head bashed in, and nobody coming out publicly to say, ‘We support her,’” she told a fellow competitor. Asked if the nation would be O.K., she said, “No, it’s going to not be O.K. It’s not.” She added that she would not vote for Mr. Trump again “in a million years, never.”

    Beyond those leaving, many positions have never been filled nearly 13 months after the inauguration. Some of those vacancies stem from the glacial pace of background investigations and the Senate confirmation process, which has grown worse with each successive president. But in many cases, the Trump administration has still not identified candidates.



    The really scary thing is there are still people in America who think Donald Trump is doing a good job.



    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-whirlwind-envelops-the-white-house-and-the-revolving-door-spins/ar-BBJ3Dxk
  2. 13 Feb '18 18:40 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    To visit the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the granite, slate and cast iron edifice across West Executive Avenue from the White House where most of the president’s staff works, at times feels like walking through a ghost town. The hallways do not bustle as much as in past administrations. The budget director is doing double duty as the acting head of ...[text shortened]... lly scary thing is there are still people in America who think Donald Trump is doing a good job.
    Trump is keeping campaign promises of reducing waste. I know you are not used to such.

    If one person is doing the duties that used to take three, you see it as failure. I see it as cutting waste. $22 million worth of waste.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2017/07/02/trumps-leaner-white-house-payroll-projected-to-save-taxpayers-22-million/#1f188bc457e6
  3. 13 Feb '18 18:56
    How does Trump survive without the army of Obama czars?

    Who wipes his bum?
  4. 13 Feb '18 18:59
    Originally posted by @whodey
    How does Trump survive without the army of Obama czars?

    Who wipes his bum?
    Are you applying?
  5. Subscriber mchill
    Infinitorum
    13 Feb '18 20:04 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Trump is keeping campaign promises of reducing waste. I know you are not used to such.

    If one person is doing the duties that used to take three, you see it as failure. I see it as cutting waste. $22 million worth of waste.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2017/07/02/trumps-leaner-white-house-payroll-projected-to-save-taxpayers-22-million/#1f188bc457e6
    Trump is keeping campaign promises of reducing waste.

    Oh, Really?? You mean like spending millions of our tax dollars on golf outings, trips to Mar a Lago, and visiting his many properties?? Do the math Einstein, that's a lot more than Obama ever did! Is this how Trump reduces waste?? You only see what you want to, don't you?

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/23/david-frum/are-trumps-travels-imposing-historic-costs-taxpaye/
  6. 13 Feb '18 20:19
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Trump is keeping campaign promises of reducing waste.

    Oh, Really?? You mean like spending millions of our tax dollars on golf outings, trips to Mar a Lago, and visiting his many properties?? Do the math Einstein, that's a lot more than Obama ever did! Is this how Trump reduces waste?? You only see what you want to, don't you?

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/23/david-frum/are-trumps-travels-imposing-historic-costs-taxpaye/
    First off...learn to use quotations properly. Second...why did you flee from your posted topic?
    Third...don't use leftist politico to prove anything to me.
  7. Subscriber mchill
    Infinitorum
    13 Feb '18 21:16
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    First off...learn to use quotations properly. Second...why did you flee from your posted topic?
    Third...don't use leftist politico to prove anything to me.
    OK. Go back and bury your head in FIX news. At least The Five has some hotties you can lust after.
  8. 13 Feb '18 22:12
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Are you applying?
    Are you kidding me?

    Do I want questioned by Mueller and his gang of thugs?

    Hell no!
  9. 13 Feb '18 22:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    If one person is doing the duties that used to take three, you see it as failure. I see it as cutting waste. $22 million worth of waste.
    If someone has a job who wouldn't otherwise have a job, then it can hardly be said that the money used to pay their salary is wasted.
  10. 14 Feb '18 16:52
    Originally posted by @whodey
    How does Trump survive without the army of Obama czars?

    Who wipes his bum?
    Looking at his face... not even he does.
  11. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    14 Feb '18 17:07
    Originally posted by @teinosuke
    If someone has a job who wouldn't otherwise have a job, then it can hardly be said that the money used to pay their salary is wasted.
    It's virtually axiomatic that people who are capable of getting White House jobs are also capable of getting private sector jobs.

    A person who voluntarily leaves a White House will almost certainly do so only when and if he or she has a private sector job lined up.
  12. 14 Feb '18 17:53
    Originally posted by @sh76
    It's virtually axiomatic that people who are capable of getting White House jobs are also capable of getting private sector jobs.

    A person who voluntarily leaves a White House will almost certainly do so only when and if he or she has a private sector job lined up.
    sh will apply.

    Do you beat your wife sh?
  13. 14 Feb '18 19:24
    Originally posted by @sh76
    It's virtually axiomatic that people who are capable of getting White House jobs are also capable of getting private sector jobs.

    A person who voluntarily leaves a White House will almost certainly do so only when and if he or she has a private sector job lined up.
    porter is going to the NBA
  14. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    14 Feb '18 21:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Trump is keeping campaign promises of reducing waste. I know you are not used to such.

    If one person is doing the duties that used to take three, you see it as failure. I see it as cutting waste. $22 million worth of waste.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2017/07/02/trumps-leaner-white-house-payroll-projected-to-save-taxpayers-22-million/#1f188bc457e6
    Reducing waste like this:

    But a report last month in E&E News revealed some of the threats made against Pruitt in 2017—and the cost of protecting him. Pruitt has 24/7 security detail, which “cost $832,735.40 in salary and travel expenses for his first quarter at the agency,” E&E reported. “If that spending keeps pace for Pruitt’s first year at EPA, his security detail will cost more than $2 million.”

    https://newrepublic.com/minutes/147086/threats-allegedly-require-scott-pruitt-fly-first-class

    Pruitt also insists on flying first class because of " unpleasant interactions with other travelers."

    The peasants in coach can be kinda uppity, but I seriously doubt most travelers would know who Scott Pruitt was.
  15. 14 Feb '18 22:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Reducing waste like this:

    But a report last month in E&E News revealed some of the threats made against Pruitt in 2017—and the cost of protecting him. Pruitt has 24/7 security detail, which “cost $832,735.40 in salary and travel expenses for his first quarter at the agency,” E&E reported. “If that spending keeps pace for Pruitt’s first year at EPA, h ...[text shortened]... coach can be kinda uppity, but I seriously doubt most travelers would know who Scott Pruitt was.
    I believe you should be putting the blame on the people that are making the threats...but liberals tend to be violent like this.

    Another example of waste being eliminated...

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/356531-melania-trump-has-smaller-first-lady-staff-than-michelle-obama-report