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  1. 17 Aug '11 16:30
    From the Houston Chronicle.
    8/17/2011

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/politics/7700968.html

    "BEDFORD, N.H. — Rick Perry says he does not believe in global warming. The newest Republican presidential candidate also says he would not have signed the debt-ceiling compromise brokered by Republicans and Democrats.

    The Texas governor made the comments as he launched a two-day New Hampshire campaign tour. He was speaking at a packed breakfast event with business leaders Wednesday.

    Perry said global warming is based on scientists manipulating data. He said he wouldn't devote federal resources to battling the environmental concern.

    The Republican also said the debt-ceiling compromise, which helped avoid a national default, sent the wrong message by spending money the nation doesn't have."
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    17 Aug '11 16:36
    I wonder if he believes in the Great Flood at the end of the last Ice Age. They are related concepts. This is a good way to bridge the religious-climate science rivalry.

    http://ldolphin.org/eden/
  3. 17 Aug '11 16:55
    Originally posted by moon1969
    From the Houston Chronicle.
    8/17/2011

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/politics/7700968.html

    "BEDFORD, N.H. — Rick Perry says he does not believe in global warming. The newest Republican presidential candidate also says he would not have signed the debt-ceiling compromise brokered by Republicans and Democrats.

    The Texas governor made the ...[text shortened]... avoid a national default, sent the wrong message by spending money the nation doesn't have."
    I wonder if Perry believed that when he was a democrat working as Al Gore's campaign manager.

    I tend to think he is just playing the role. It is hard to know what Perry really believes.
  4. 17 Aug '11 17:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    I tend to think he is just playing the role. It is hard to know what Perry really believes.
    That's likely true. He has that reputation among many in Texas.
  5. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    17 Aug '11 18:27 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by moon1969
    From the Houston Chronicle.
    8/17/2011

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/politics/7700968.html

    "BEDFORD, N.H. — Rick Perry says he does not believe in global warming. The newest Republican presidential candidate also says he would not have signed the debt-ceiling compromise brokered by Republicans and Democrats.

    The Texas governor made the avoid a national default, sent the wrong message by spending money the nation doesn't have."
    That's not what he said at all. Both your thread title and the article title are misleading

    "I think we're seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists that are coming forward and questioning the original idea that manmade global warming is what is causing the climate to change," the Texas governor said on the first stop of a two-day trip to the first-in-the-nation primary state.

    He said some want billions or trillions of taxpayer dollars spent to address the issue, but he added: "I don't think from my perspective that I want to be engaged in spending that much money on still a scientific theory that has not been proven and from my perspective is more and more being put into question."


    What he said is that whether human activities are causing global climate change is unclear enough so that he doesn't want money to be spent to remedy it. That is not the same thing as saying he does not believe the globe is warming and it is not even the same thing as saying he's convinced that human activity is not causing global warming.
  6. 25 Aug '11 23:30
    Originally posted by sh76
    That's not what he said at all. Both your thread title and the article title are misleading

    [quote]"I think we're seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists that are coming forward and questioning the original idea that manmade global warming is what is causing the climate to change," the Texas governor said on the first stop of a two-day trip to the fi ...[text shortened]... same thing as saying he's convinced that human activity is not causing global warming.
    always good to see you sh76... didn't photos from NASA also question the green house gas escaping? More than what was previously thought?
  7. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    26 Aug '11 00:03
    Originally posted by sh76
    That's not what he said at all. Both your thread title and the article title are misleading

    [quote]"I think we're seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists that are coming forward and questioning the original idea that manmade global warming is what is causing the climate to change," the Texas governor said on the first stop of a two-day trip to the fi ...[text shortened]... same thing as saying he's convinced that human activity is not causing global warming.
    In his book, he wasn't so nuanced:

    Because as Perry wrote in his new book, global warming is “all one contrived phony mess that is falling apart under its own weight."

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/texas-gov-rick-perrys-answer-to-climate-change-start-prayin-20110428
  8. 26 Aug '11 00:18
    Originally posted by moon1969
    From the Houston Chronicle.
    8/17/2011

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/politics/7700968.html

    "BEDFORD, N.H. — Rick Perry says he does not believe in global warming. The newest Republican presidential candidate also says he would not have signed the debt-ceiling compromise brokered by Republicans and Democrats.

    The Texas governor made the ...[text shortened]... avoid a national default, sent the wrong message by spending money the nation doesn't have."
    Whether you agree with him or not, he is getting a lot of support based on those beliefs.
  9. 26 Aug '11 00:20
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Whether you agree with him or not, he is getting a lot of support based on those beliefs.
    and 50,000,000 Elvis fans simply can't be wrong.
  10. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    26 Aug '11 00:20
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Whether you agree with him or not, he is getting a lot of support based on those beliefs.
    From Republicans. Good.
  11. 26 Aug '11 00:53
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    From Republicans. Good.
    He isn't running for the Democratic nomination.
  12. 26 Aug '11 00:55
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    and 50,000,000 Elvis fans simply can't be wrong.
    Right.....wrong.....he's interested in getting Republican votes. He could care less what far left wingers believe, right or wrong.
  13. 26 Aug '11 01:18
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Right.....wrong.....he's interested in getting Republican votes. He could care less what far left wingers believe, right or wrong.
    Playing to the solidly Republican (and a special kind of Republican at that) gallery won't get him into the White House.
  14. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    26 Aug '11 01:24
    Originally posted by normbenign
    He isn't running for the Democratic nomination.
    I understand that. I regard it as "good" because that particular belief is out of touch with the majority of voters and should Perry get the nomination or force whoever does to move closer to his views on this subject it will make it more likely that I will win my wager with uther.