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@metal-brain saidSame thing is true for Johnson & Johnson, that came on line with emergency approval on Feb 27, 2021.
The FDA said “to permit the emergency use of the unapproved product".
https://www.globalresearch.ca/cya-fraudulent-marketing-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-unapproved-product-permitted-use/5738844
That means it does not have FDA approval and you are volunteering to be a guinea pig if you take it.
NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J., February 27, 2021 – Johnson & Johnson (NYSE: JNJ) (the Company) today announced
that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for its single-dose
COVID-19 vaccine, developed by the Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson,
to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 18 years of age and older.
What's neat is this J&J vax is best at fighting the variants of COVID.
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@no1marauder saidWrong:
Wrong:
"The FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)."
From the handout I received at my pharmacy before getting the first dose.
EDIT: Found it online: https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download
It explains in detail what a ...[text shortened]... for the
product to be used in the treatment of patients during the COVID-19 pandemic."[/b] pp. 4-5
EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION is NOT FDA approval.
You are in denial of reality.
From the FDA link below:
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use
Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the "unapproved product",
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, for active immunization to prevent
COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older"
https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download
The FDA says "unapproved product". DUH!
@metal-brain saidYou're not " volunteering to be a guinea pig" as you claimed by taking a vaccine authorized by the FDA under an EUA.
Wrong:
EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION is NOT FDA approval.
You are in denial of reality.
From the FDA link below:
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use
Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the "unapproved product",
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, for active immunization to prevent
COVID-19 in individuals 16 year ...[text shortened]... e and older"
https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download
The FDA says "unapproved product". DUH!
@no1marauder saidIt does NOT have FDA approval.
You're not " volunteering to be a guinea pig" as you claimed by taking a vaccine authorized by the FDA under an EUA.
The FDA itself even says it is an "unapproved product" in their literature.
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The post that was quoted here has been removedI pointed out that malaria isn't a problem in the US and of the 2000 yearly cases almost all are brought back by people that visited other countries WTF are you on about talking about a war from the 1960's?
I don't care about artemisinin if someone wants to use it or any other China medicines god you are so effed up what you said has nothing to do with my post but you just had to make up something to grouse about .
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@metal-brain said"FDA may issue an EUA when certain criteria are met, which includes that there are no adequate, approved, available alternatives. In addition, the FDA decision is based on the totality of scientific evidence available showing that the product may be effective to prevent COVID-19 during the COVID-19 pandemic and that the known and potential benefits of the product outweigh the known and potential risks of the product. All of these criteria must be met to allow for the product to be used in the treatment of patients during the COVID-19 pandemic."
It does NOT have FDA approval.
The FDA itself even says it is an "unapproved product" in their literature.
In other words, you're a goddamn fool not to get vaccinated if one is available. As I already pointed out, FDA approval of a drug on average takes 12 years; it would be insane to wait that long while people are dying of a disease when you have something that has been shown to be effective to prevent it and who's known benefits outweigh the known risks.
Australia doesn't have a Covid emergency, nor does it have a provision for emergency use. Our TGA is every bit as cautious as the FDA and not short of skills or funding. It has completed the normal approval process for both Pfizer and AstraZeneca drugs. Nothing has been rushed here because there's no need.
The only qualifier placed on either drug by the TGA is a warning to sufferers of two very rare conditions. Neither drug is approved for children yet.
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@kewpie saidWhile it doesn't use the word "emergency", the vaccines were not approved using normal procedures in Australia:
Australia doesn't have a Covid emergency, nor does it have a provision for emergency use. Our TGA is every bit as cautious as the FDA and not short of skills or funding. It has completed the normal approval process for both Pfizer and AstraZeneca drugs. Nothing has been rushed here because there's no need.
The only qualifier placed on either drug by the TGA is a warning to sufferers of two very rare conditions. Neither drug is approved for children yet.
"COMIRNATY is provisionally approved and included in the Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods (ARTG) for active immunisation to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), caused by SARS-CoV-2, in individuals 16 years of age and older.
Provisional approval of this vaccine is valid for two years and means it can now be legally supplied in Australia. The approval is subject to certain strict conditions, such as the requirement for Pfizer to continue providing information to the TGA on longer term efficacy and safety from ongoing clinical trials and post-market assessment."
https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/tga-provisionally-approves-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine
Same for AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine: https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/tga-provisionally-approves-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine
Is there really any difference between "authorized for emergency use" and "provisionally approved"? It seems like hair-splitting semantics to me.
@no1marauder saidLike I said, it does NOT have FDA approval.
"FDA may issue an EUA when certain criteria are met, which includes that there are no adequate, approved, available alternatives. In addition, the FDA decision is based on the totality of scientific evidence available showing that the product may be effective to prevent COVID-19 during the COVID-19 pandemic and [b]that the known and potential benefits of the product outwe ...[text shortened]... that has been shown to be effective to prevent it and who's known benefits outweigh the known risks.
You are a fool to take a vaccine for something that kills about as much people as a bad flu year. There are anti-viral medications that can lower the death rate, but big pharma does not want low cost drugs to be used that cut into their profits. Those are available alternatives contrary to the propaganda you have been fed.
They don't even know it will not cause infertility. Says so on the insert. In other words, you're a goddamn fool for not doing your research and learning something about it.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/15/5-questions-to-ask-your-friends-who-plan-to-get-the-covid-vaccine/
@metal-brain saidNo "bad flu year" in a 100 years killed anything like a minimum of 550,000 Americans.
Like I said, it does NOT have FDA approval.
You are a fool to take a vaccine for something that kills about as much people as a bad flu year. There are anti-viral medications that can lower the death rate, but big pharma does not want low cost drugs to be used that cut into their profits. Those are available alternatives contrary to the propaganda you have been fed.
...[text shortened]... tps://off-guardian.org/2021/02/15/5-questions-to-ask-your-friends-who-plan-to-get-the-covid-vaccine/
Someone who relies on crank websites like Globalresearch is hardly in a position to talk about being "fed propaganda".
@no1marauder saidWrong!
No "bad flu year" in a 100 years killed anything like a minimum of 550,000 Americans.
Someone who relies on crank websites like Globalresearch is hardly in a position to talk about being "fed propaganda".
You are relying on tainted data and I can easily prove it.
Lets start with the death rate in the USA in the year 2020 and 2019. Subtract the 2019 death rate from the 2020 death rate. IMPORTANT: It must be all deaths regardless of cause.
What number do you get?
@metal-brain saidTotal figures for 2020 are not yet available in prior year formats. But you can see on this chart, that deaths in 2020-21 have exceeded weekly expected totals since the week ending March 28, often by more than 20 to 30%. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Wrong!
You are relying on tainted data and I can easily prove it.
Lets start with the death rate in the USA in the year 2020 and 2019. Subtract the 2019 death rate from the 2020 death rate. IMPORTANT: It must be all deaths regardless of cause.
What number do you get?
The CDC estimates (surely an undercount since it only uses deaths identified as COVID on death certificates) 545,273 deaths from COVID in the US since the beginning of the pandemic (which has continued into 2021). https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
@Duchess64 -
So, to rephrase my question, should artemisinin be used by Americans?
Only if it s approved for White People, Duchess.