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  1. 25 Nov '09 00:54


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6928863.ece
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    25 Nov '09 03:15
    Originally posted by zeeblebot


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6928863.ece
    The 'politicians are slime' meme is way overused.

    Thanks for showing this!
  3. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    25 Nov '09 06:36
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6928863.ece
    What's the debate?

    What's to be found at this link?
  4. 25 Nov '09 13:30
    Originally posted by FMF
    What's the debate?

    What's to be found at this link?
    Most of the present MPs, especially on the Labour benches, would be unlikely to be earning much more than about £30,000 p.a. in any other occupation open to them so they should be grateful to be receiving a basic salary of £64,000 and should be required to submit invoices for all genuinely necessary out-of-pocket expenses in accordance with normal business practice.
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    25 Nov '09 16:37
    Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
    Most of the present MPs, especially on the Labour benches, would be unlikely to be earning much more than about £30,000 p.a. in any other occupation open to them so they should be grateful to be receiving a basic salary of £64,000 and should be required to submit invoices for all genuinely necessary out-of-pocket expenses in accordance with normal business practice.
    So what's the debate?

    And what's to be found at the link in the OP?
  6. 25 Nov '09 17:52
    Originally posted by FMF
    What's the debate?

    What's to be found at this link?
    no debate, zeeblebot just enjoys copying-and-pasting ramdom links for no apparent reason, I thought you knew that already.
  7. 25 Nov '09 20:44
    we should give kudos to a guy like that ... there is no Kudos forum, so there you are.

    if you really HAVE to have a debate, why do liberals keep electing politicians that don't act like this guy?
  8. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    27 Nov '09 10:11
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    we should give kudos to a guy like that ... there is no Kudos forum, so there you are.

    if you really HAVE to have a debate, why do liberals keep electing politicians that don't act like this guy?
    This guy is in the Labour Party, which is a British liberal party.
  9. 27 Nov '09 11:41
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    This guy is in the Labour Party, which is a British liberal party.
    Liberal? It is the most oppressive and incompetent of the UK political parties. The present lot in government have brought Britain to the brink of economic collapse as did its predecessor in 1979.
  10. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    27 Nov '09 13:19
    Originally posted by Leon Alvarado
    Liberal? It is the most oppressive and incompetent of the UK political parties. The present lot in government have brought Britain to the brink of economic collapse as did its predecessor in 1979.
    Wiki claims it's center-left, and clarifies that left means more government involvement in the economy. That sounds fairly liberal by US standards to me.
  11. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    27 Nov '09 13:55
    Ah, the old stumbling block of American parochial manichaeism rears its undiscerning head once again...
  12. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    27 Nov '09 13:58
    Originally posted by DrKF
    Ah, the old stumbling block of American parochial manichaeism rears its undiscerning head once again...
    Considering zeeblebot is American, isn't the stumbling block on your end?
  13. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    27 Nov '09 14:01
    Originally posted by Leon Alvarado
    The present lot in government have brought Britain to the brink of economic collapse....
    Mmmm. Yes. And I suppose the fact that almost every other developed country in the entire world was brought to a similar "brink of economic collapse" in the last couple of years is completely irrelevant?
  14. 29 Nov '09 17:54
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    This guy is in the Labour Party, which is a British liberal party.
    and they elected ONE of these.