@cosmic-energy4 saidVery difficult when citizens of the country go nuts. Have you heard that our last president erased the southern border of our country, appointed an oblivious person the Czar the border, ane everything went to hell. A predecessor Obama sent 3 million of them home, and he brought them back in.
No wander the Greeks and the Romans abandoned democracy in BCE,democracy and freedom ony works efficient if politicians and people respect and obey the philosophy of democracy and freedom.
Then, there is this. The government is at a stalemate because the Democrats want to provide health insurance to those people who are illegally here.. They claim they are not doing that, yet if you know someone working in ER, ask them if they give them free healthcare, which means the other citizens are paying. They are doing this to protect the one bunch that will vote for them. They are holding the repubs hostage to get this done.
You see, they want to extend the Obamacare subsidies and use that money for illegal healthcare. They want to repeal healthcare going to illegal aliens....Schumer's proposal on page 57 wants to return the 200billions of dollars of taxpayers funds to pay for illegal aliens; the democrats are trying to hijack a short-term non-partisan continuing resolution, to try and give $1.5T of new spending to make free healthcare availble for non-citizens.
This is all on google, but may I direct you to an NBC Democratic Primary Debate,,when they were all asked to raise their hands if they think the USA taxpayers should pay healthcare for non-citizens. They all raised their hands. People like Marauder and Moonbeam and Shav all have answers to this confusion. Marauder would go so far as to say it is not real money, or, that is not coming from taxpayers. If you will look at just that array of liberal losers at the debate, who change their minds each day, you will see the light. A bunch of faeiries who let their president turn his office over to children and radicals for 4 years.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/450797-all-candidates-raise-hands-on-giving-health-care-to-undocumented-immigrants/
@AverageJoe1; Politicians of both sides make bad decisions,they reason is to stay in power beacouse there's no guarantee theywill stay in power again,most of them are control by the leader of the party that's the reason Democracy doesn't work efficient.
@cosmic-energy4 saidEveryone on this forum is quite aware of that. Are you suggesting a solution? Be our guest!🤔
@AverageJoe1; Politicians of both sides make bad decisions,they reason is to stay in power beacouse there's no guarantee theywill stay in power again,most of them are control by the leader of the party that's the reason Democracy doesn't work efficient.
There are some 🧚♂️ who just have to get the stuff of other people. They rely on others rather than on themselves. So, the society is heavily weighted , like 3 people on one end of a seesaw, and one on the other. But, you know that. Everyone knows all of this.
Problem with democracy, you say. We do too.
@AverageJoe1; My personal opinion is that any person wanting to stand for governmant position 1.Must be born in that country,2.Must have a profession that is useful in halping to run the country efficiently and most of all loyal to the people and country not to political party,religion or any other philosophical ideas that can distract him from performing his duty...from which he was elected.
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@cosmic-energy4 saidI agree.but realistically, assuming there exist political parties, he would be loyal to his party would he not? So, if he does not, he must be an independent. If all such people were of that ilk, all would be independents. Thus, no parties. Don’t follow.
@AverageJoe1; My personal opinion is that any person wanting to stand for governmant position 1.Must be born in that country,2.Must have a profession that is useful in halping to run the country efficiently and most of all loyal to the people and country not to political party,religion or any other philosophical ideas that can distract him from performing his duty...from which he was elected.
@cosmic-energy4 saidSounds like a permanent state of loss for minorities. I guess in your world, majority rule is great because it is so ALTRUISTIC.
@AverageJoe1; In my view should be one party 'PEOPLE AND COUNTRY" and in that order!!!
@cosmic-energy4 saidIt tends to work only under certain conditions, which include:
No wander the Greeks and the Romans abandoned democracy in BCE,democracy and freedom ony works efficient if politicians and people respect and obey the philosophy of democracy and freedom.
1. a well- and truthfully informed electorate; this presupposes professional and responsible journalism, peer review, and severe penalties for propagating slander, lies, incitement to insurrection/violence, and hate mongering.
2. an apolitical judiciary.
3. constitutional limits on what the electorate can implement, to prevent a majority from running roughshod over minorities.
4. a multiparty system (Russian/Soviet and Chinese 'elections' are farcical.)
@cosmic-energy4 saidIsn’t that true of any political, religious or economic system?
No wander the Greeks and the Romans abandoned democracy in BCE,democracy and freedom ony works efficient if politicians and people respect and obey the philosophy of democracy and freedom.
@shavixmir saidNo government is perfect. Someone once said that the best form of government would be one in which it would not much matter whether good or bad people got into power--they'd be so hemmed in by checks and balances that no one could do a great deal of harm.
Isn’t that true of any political, religious or economic system?
The chief advantage of democracy is not how people get into power, by means of elections, but rather that they can be gotten out of power, peacefully and on schedule. That is what was so disturbing about Trump in 2021 ...
@cosmic-energy4 saidI must disagree.
@AverageJoe1; In my view should be one party 'PEOPLE AND COUNTRY" and in that order!!!
@cosmic-energy4 saidSingle-party states invariably confuse the interest of The Party for the interest of the nation.
@AverageJoe1; In my view should be one party 'PEOPLE AND COUNTRY" and in that order!!!