Debates
05 Jan 06
05 Jan 06
in reading through the white suprimest i was reminded of a question that comes up a lot in NFL talk these days. McNabb is the quarterback of my team, the eagles. a lot of the calls coming in to radio stations and even some high up people stirred controversy in putting down black quarterbacks. so the debate i am going to raise is:
Are white quarterbacks superior to black quarterbacks?
How many black quarterbacks have won a super bowl? 1
Who would you rather have leading your team, Brady or McNabb? Manning or Vick? Leinart or Young?
I think this question brings up athletic and mental issues, being that you must be intelligent to QB in the NFL.
I am just raising the question, I am not a supremist or a racist. just want to hear your opinion.
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsI'm sure the answer lies beyond race. I just can't tell, not having the best insight into the culture of american football.
in reading through the white suprimest i was reminded of a question that comes up a lot in NFL talk these days. McNabb is the quarterback of my team, the eagles. a lot of the calls coming in to radio stations and even some high up people stirred controversy in putting down black quarterbacks. so the debate i am going to raise is:
Are white quarterback ...[text shortened]... am just raising the question, I am not a supremist or a racist. just want to hear your opinion.
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsIt all depends on the type of offense employed. A case can be made for either race, as seen in Doug Flutie as a white scrambler, or, Doug Williams, a black passer.
Are white quarterbacks superior to black quarterbacks?
In my opinion, the best five quaterbacks in the last 25 years are:
Joe Montana
Warren Moon
Steve Young
Dan Marino
John Elway
I rate them as best, in that they elevated their teams from the standpoints of leadership and achievement. Each possessed some similar traits, as well as distinguished themselves from the others for their unique abilities.
Had Warren Moon played his entire career in the NFL, it is doubtful any of the other four would have been able to compare.
If he can translate his game in the NFL, Vince Young will be giving all five a run for their money.
For what it's worth.
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by stockenFor a number of years it was thought that blacks weren't smart enough to play quarterback. They were wrong. Then it was believed that black qb's couldn't be dropback, pocket passers. Warren Moon proved them wrong. Currently there are at least five black qb's starting in the NFL and Vince Young in a year or two will make it six. The black qb is here to say, my question is why aren't there more black punters? Reggie Roby is the only one that comes to mind.
I'm sure the answer lies beyond race. I just can't tell, not having the best insight into the culture of american football.
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by sasquatch672Black, white, it doesn't matter: them Seahawks is goin' to the SuperBowl this year.
McNabb's problem isn't his skin color, it's his fragile psyche. He's a little soft, mentally, I think. I was watching Vince Young last night do all the things McNabb's supposed to do - did do, two and three years ago - and I pined for what once was. But McNabb is so aware of the "black quarterback" stereotype and so determined to not perpetuate it th ...[text shortened]... e to run and just put the Eagles on his shoulders to take over a game.
Anyhoo...
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI think the Colt's will win it all. Prior to the son of Coach Dunghy dying they were firing on all cylinders. I think they will regain that form for the playoffs. Hell they have the best QB in the NFL.
Couldn't or didn't want to beat them?
How 'bout them Colts?
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by slimjimMy money's on the Patriots and their QB, who is the best in the NFL.
I think the Colt's will win it all. Prior to the son of Coach Dunghy dying they were firing on all cylinders. I think they will regain that form for the playoffs. Hell they have the best QB in the NFL.
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHJust out of curiosity, do you equate the smarts of a top captain
Couldn't or didn't want to beat them?
How 'bout them Colts?
or coach or owner or QB with the kind of intelligence displayed by
a Kasparov or Fischer? Just talking smarts not whether they are nuts
or not.
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHthe colts didn't play anyone in that game. it was like the Seahawks starters vs. a D III college team.
...and what was the score for the Colts v Seahawks game?
And I agree with Darv that Brady is the best QB. but Manning is the smartest. I think Vick sux, they should start Shaub over him. and i hope McNabb comes back to his true form
05 Jan 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsI'll tell you what, the Seahawks did have an easy schedule, but they are playing very good football. Even if the Colts didn't play anyone in those losses, you never want to go into the playoffs playing bad football. The team to watch is the (much hated by me) NE Patriots. You can't much argue with a qb that has never lost a game in the playoffs.
the colts didn't play anyone in that game. it was like the Seahawks starters vs. a D III college team.
And I agree with Darv that Brady is the best QB. but Manning is the smartest. I think Vick sux, they should start Shaub over him. and i hope McNabb comes back to his true form