Originally posted by StarValleyWyLots of British books too, guess you can throw those out with the
It is just a library Stan. Lots and lots of books. Nothing to do with congress per se.
wash.
Well Quantum computers may be a bit more advanced than I thought,
I thought only 4 Qubits had been done, now up to 7, soon be 8,etc.
But from what I read you need hundreds of qubits to actually exceed
the present pace of modern computers approaching the Petaflop
area, IBM has one doing 0.135 PETAflops right now. That be one
powerfull comp boys.
Originally posted by sonhouseThe truth is there. But the modal method is all wrong. To even try to compare "swaps" and 'flips" and "ops" between quantum and big-world is all wrong. Only about a thousand people on earth can grasp the notion of "quantum" comparison... which is what we are talking about. I ain't one of them. I'm barely smart enough to see that I don't understand it.
Lots of British books too, guess you can throw those out with the
wash.
Well Quantum computers may be a bit more advanced than I thought,
I thought only 4 Qubits had been done, now up to 7, soon be 8,etc.
But from what I read you need hundreds of qubits to actually exceed
the present pace of modern computers approaching the Petaflop
area, IBM has one doing 0.135 PETAflops right now. That be one
powerfull comp boys.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyyeah, one tenet of QC is the superposition of energy states,
The truth is there. But the modal method is all wrong. To even try to compare "swaps" and 'flips" and "ops" between quantum and big-world is all wrong. Only about a thousand people on earth can grasp the notion of "quantum" comparison... which is what we are talking about. I ain't one of them. I'm barely smart enough to see that I don't understand it.
which allows a single Qubit to be an AND gate, OR gate, XOR gate,
NOR gate, all at the same time. I know thats only an approximation
of the concept, its like 25th century technology leaking back into
the 20th century! like Clarke says, Any technology sufficiently advanced
is indistinguishable from magic.
Originally posted by sonhouseIt sure the hell is for me. I can't do enough math to be educated, so I will just admit that I "kind of see" that things that happen 10X 6 ^38 power faster than silicon processors is good. But HOW it might be is way over my head.
yeah, one tenet of QC is the superposition of energy states,
which allows a single Qubit to be an AND gate, OR gate, XOR gate,
NOR gate, all at the same time. I know thats only an approximation
of the concept, its like 25th century technology leaking back into
the 20th century! like Clarke says, Any technology sufficiently advanced
is indistinguishable from magic.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyEver hear of Sawyers trilogy Hominids?
It sure the hell is for me. I can't do enough math to be educated, so I will just admit that I "kind of see" that things that happen 10X 6 ^38 power faster than silicon processors is good. But HOW it might be is way over my head.
About Quantum computers simultaneously being operated on
paralell worlds, opening a wormhole between them and then the
fun begins? One world, Humans dominate. The other world,
Neandertalers win out, become civilized and have high science too.
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Originally posted by sonhouseNot that particular variant, but starting with "Worlds Of IF" in 1964, there are ten such stories. I was truly astounded the first time I read one.
Ever hear of Sawyers trilogy Hominids?
About Quantum computers simultaneously being operated on
paralell worlds, opening a wormhole between them and then the
fun begins? One world, Humans dominate. The other world,
Neandertalers win out, become civilized and have high science too.
<edit> The first variant was based on a team that had a "world" in an atom. Their "quantum magnifier" allowed them to project a member of the "team" into the world. The parodox was that should the outsider be discovered, the reality failed and the "world" parished along with the "viewer". It really made one think about the absurdity of what we "know" as opposed to what "is".
Originally posted by StarValleyWyWow, thats heady stuff for '64. 41 years ago not much was known
Not that particular variant, but starting with "Worlds Of IF" in 1964, there are ten such stories. I was truly astounded the first time I read one.
<edit> The first variant was based on a team that had a "world" in an atom. Their "quantum magnifier" allowed them to project a member of the "team" into the world. The parodox was that should the ...[text shortened]... r". It really made one think about the absurdity of what we "know" as opposed to what "is".
about quantum superposition and such. They must have extrapolated
about the entangled photons or some other particle when one
particle is measured for a trait the other particle immediately
reveals its state, no longer in limbo. Einstein had a distinct distaste
for the concept! "Spooky action at a distance" he called it.
Richard Fienman introduced the concept of a particle coming backwards
in time to complete the story and remove paradoxes. I think that
was the QDT theory, won him the nobel prize.
Originally posted by zeeblebotWell for sure. Thats why its in the labs, duh. Just like relativity
they're going to have trouble finding coders if only 1000 people can understand it ...
the petaflop computers all have huge numbers of processors, i think the idea with QC is to do that on one chip (or closer to it) ...
in 1920. Now a lot of people know about relativity and that knowledge
now has to be utilized in stuff like the GPS, without a solid foundation
in relativity, the GPS would be less accurate than a map and compass.
And so the same will be with QC. In 10 or 30 years, whatever, all this
will be moot, comps will be tera-peta flop if QC meets its promise.
I just read an article in the latest Physics World about the
mechanics of quantum mechanics. It shows recent work that really
boggles my mind, I guess it doesn't take much to boggle me but
this is amazing: the idea of superpositon of states is going macro.
They took this nanosized lever or reed and cause it to vibrate but
it is close to absolute zero temp wise and the get the thing somehow
superpositioned so when it vibrates it is in two positions at once!
You know, when you have a reed vibrate like on a harmonica, the
reed moves up and down fast enough to make a sound but if you
took a movie of it you would see it gradually bending from the up
position and moving to the down and repeating.
This new thing is in both up and down positions at the same time.
Jeez, that boggles my sleep deprived mind!
Originally posted by sonhouseBe careful what you read.
I just read an article in the latest Physics World about the
mechanics of quantum mechanics. It shows recent work that really
boggles my mind, I guess it doesn't take much to boggle me but
this is amazing: the idea of superpositon of states is going macro.
They took this nanosized lever or reed and cause it to vibrate but
it is close to absolute zero ...[text shortened]... g is in both up and down positions at the same time.
Jeez, that boggles my sleep deprived mind!