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American Republicans are a good group. They are not Nazi's, as some claim, and I believe they truly want the best for everyone in America, and all over the world. America's conservative party needs to realize however that there way of doing business is not always the best way. The proper mix of Capitalism and Socialism can work well in any country to insure that the interests of the financial elite and working class are well represented, many countries in Europe have proved this for decades. Socialism...a word that strikes fear into the hearts of Republicans. Socialist policies in America such as Child Labor Laws, Social Security, Federal Housing Administration, Federal Deposit Insurance Corperation, Anti Trust Laws and many others were violently denounced as "socialist" by Republicans as they warned that these policies were destroying America's capitalist system, well...they didn't. For the last 8 years America's conservative economic group have taken a "hands off" policy regarding America's banking system, and Federal oversite of lending institutions was severly weakened. We're seeing the economic result of that policy today. America's Republican's are going to have to accept the fact that unbrideled capitalism is not always the best approach, and that some forms of Socialism are necessary to insure that needs of everyone is represented. It's easy to feel bitter, and angry when one's political party has just suffered a big defeat in a recent election. I feel however that many Republicans will, in time, begin to understand that a more moderate form of conservativism might better suit America's Republican party. 😏

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I agree. I guess this whole irrational fear of "socialism" is a residue of McCarthyism.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I agree. I guess this whole irrational fear of "socialism" is a residue of McCarthyism.
McCarthy merely capitalized on existing fears. Fear of Communism has pervaded America since before the Bolshevik Revolution.

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socialism and social democracy is not the same. it seems that few american conservatives, especially the ones here at RHP, know what socialism is. at least judging by the allegations towards obama, and his 'socialist' policies.

but i agree with you 100% social democracy, especially the scandinavian model, works far better than the american capitalist democracy.

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Originally posted by scherzo
McCarthy merely capitalized on existing fears. Fear of Communism has pervaded America since before the Bolshevik Revolution.
Perhaps so... I wonder why. There was never any real threat of a communist revolution in the US, was there?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Perhaps so... I wonder why. There was never any real threat of a communist revolution in the US, was there?
Any one expansionist power gaining dominance in continental Eurasia, whether Nazi or Soviet, is a long term threat to the United States.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Any one expansionist power gaining dominance in continental Eurasia, whether Nazi or Soviet, is a long term threat to the United States.
Not per se, but I was talking specifically about a domestic revolution.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Perhaps so... I wonder why. There was never any real threat of a communist revolution in the US, was there?
More threat of a fascist revolution; we have more neo-Nazis than we have Communists by far.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Perhaps so... I wonder why. There was never any real threat of a communist revolution in the US, was there?
They have instead worked quietly and cleverly toward their goals and made steady progress.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I agree. I guess this whole irrational fear of "socialism" is a residue of McCarthyism.
It is never irrational to question change, people should have done it in germany and russia.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
It is never irrational to question change, people should have done it in germany and russia.
Yes, and in the US when Reagan started demolishing the economy.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yes, and in the US when Reagan started demolishing the economy.
He started demolishing the very things that had saved the U.S. from the 1973 depression. The things that saved the country's bacon were blamed for causing the problem.

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Originally posted by FMF
He started demolishing the very things that had saved the U.S. from the 1973 depression. The things that saved the country's bacon were blamed for causing the problem.
Yes, and the very things that were introduced by Roosevelt and ensured the US dominance in terms of wealth in the 50s, 60s and 70s.

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Originally posted by FMF
He started demolishing the very things that had saved the U.S. from the 1973 depression. The things that saved the country's bacon were blamed for causing the problem.
Problems arise with saving bacon when you try and pork barrel the rich with tax cuts!

In terms of the other comments on America's native conservatism, I feel that the power elites have long clung to certain bloody minded ideas of never sharing wealth or power with the worker preferring to keep their labour firmly in their place much like they were under serfdom or slavery. The idea that a producer would rather let his business go to ruin than cave into the demands of the plebs below was finally popularized and given apology for in that great work of selfishness, Atlas Shrugged. Its no small coincidence that Ayn rhymes with mine.

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I think you seriously misunderstood that book.

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