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  1. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 Jun '09 12:36
    A left-wing former television journalist, Mauricio Funes, has been sworn-in as president of El Salvador.

    President Funes heads the FMLN, the former Marxist rebels who fought a 12-year civil war against US-backed governments until 1992.

    Whole article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8078133.stm


    No 'generalissimo thread' yet about corruption, election fraud, democracy gone wrong, economic illiteracy, 'madmen and fools', "another dictator elected"...?

    Some people say that nobody ever persuades anyone else at Debates to change their mind about anything.

    But maybe sometimes they do.
  2. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    02 Jun '09 12:42
    Or maybe it's because Funes said he wanted to improve relations with the US.
  3. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 Jun '09 12:45
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Or maybe it's because Funes said he wanted to improve relations with the US.
    Mmm. Yes. But I prefer to kid myself and think a mind has been changed here.
  4. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 Jun '09 12:52
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Or maybe it's because Funes said he wanted to improve relations with the US.
    Seconds thoughts: yes, I see what you're getting at.
  5. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    02 Jun '09 13:20
    Originally posted by FMF
    [b]A left-wing former television journalist, Mauricio Funes, has been sworn-in as president of El Salvador.

    President Funes heads the FMLN, the former Marxist rebels who fought a 12-year civil war against US-backed governments until 1992.

    Whole article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8078133.stm


    No 'generalissimo thread' yet about corrup ...[text shortened]... nyone else at Debates to change their mind about anything.

    But maybe sometimes they do.[/b]
    Dictators are generally not elected. Either they seize power by force or become dictators after they are duly elected.

    In spite of the bit about restoring relations with Cuba (which Obama would probably do also if he could find a way to do it without pissing off the Florida Cuban ex-pats); that article painted almost a love fest between Funes and Hillary. Who fought whom 20 years ago doesn't matter.

    Besides, the US can get along with leftist governments. We got along with Paul Martin's Canada pretty well. *



    * - Just to make sure there's no uncertainly, the smiley means I'm kidding around about that last remark.
  6. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 Jun '09 17:41
    Originally posted by sh76
    Dictators are generally not elected. Either they seize power by force or become dictators after they are duly elected.
    You don't say.
  7. 02 Jun '09 18:21
    Well, there are leftist policies and there is leftist rhetoric... time will tell which one applies here.
  8. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    03 Jun '09 13:29
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, there are leftist policies and there is leftist rhetoric... time will tell which one applies here.
    Has there ever been a government that's leftist enough to suit your preference?
  9. 03 Jun '09 13:30
    Originally posted by sh76
    Has there ever been a government that's leftist enough to suit your preference?
    That would depend on your definition of leftist.
  10. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    03 Jun '09 14:11
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    That would depend on your definition of leftist.
    However you define it
  11. 03 Jun '09 14:28
    Originally posted by sh76
    However you define it
    Then the answer is no.
  12. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    03 Jun '09 15:37
    Originally posted by sh76
    Has there ever been a government that's leftist enough to suit your preference?
    Any government that was sufficiently leftist would disband itself.
  13. 04 Jun '09 02:36
    Originally posted by FMF
    Mmm. Yes. But I prefer to kid myself and think a mind has been changed here.
    flexmore! a nice guy from NZ or Australia. he changed his mind once.
  14. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    04 Jun '09 03:47
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    flexmore! a nice guy from NZ or Australia. he changed his mind once.
    I think most avoid that test of humility by remaining committedly undecided