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Section 3 of the 14th amendment pursued:

Section 3 of the 14th amendment pursued:

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@sonhouse
What is wrong with letting the American people decide that when they vote?
It seems to me that you are the one who has a problem with democracy. You want a minority to decide if Trump can run in 2024

Why do you support a dictatorship?

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@metal-brain said
@sonhouse
What is wrong with letting the American people decide that when they vote?
It seems to me that you are the one who has a problem with democracy. You want a minority to decide if Trump can run in 2024

Why do you support a dictatorship?
We fell for that one back when Mitch McConnell used it to deny Obama's Constitutionally authorized Supreme Court pick. Never again.

Fact is, according to the 14th Amendment, Trump is ineligible to run for any elective office ever again.


@suzianne said
We fell for that one back when Mitch McConnell used it to deny Obama's Constitutionally authorized Supreme Court pick. Never again.

Fact is, according to the 14th Amendment, Trump is ineligible to run for any elective office ever again.
No. He was indicted, not convicted.


@suzianne said
We fell for that one back when Mitch McConnell used it to deny Obama's Constitutionally authorized Supreme Court pick. Never again.

Fact is, according to the 14th Amendment, Trump is ineligible to run for any elective office ever again.
where in the constitution is a requirement for a time limit?


@suzianne said
We fell for that one back when Mitch McConnell used it to deny Obama's Constitutionally authorized Supreme Court pick. Never again.

Fact is, according to the 14th Amendment, Trump is ineligible to run for any elective office ever again.
explain


No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


Well, if trump’s found guilty, then that will be that then. At least the problem of him being president from prison has become a non-issue.


@shavixmir said
[quote]No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer ...[text shortened]... t will be that then. At least the problem of him being president from prison has become a non-issue.
what has Trump been charged with?


@mott-the-hoople said
what has Trump been charged with?
Here you are, just in case you’ve forgotten:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66508259

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@shavixmir said
Here you are, just in case you’ve forgotten:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66508259
you mean you cant tell me?
you mention insurrection and rebellion in your post above…Is that what Trump is charged with?

of course not, it is just you being dishonest

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@metal-brain said
No. He was indicted, not convicted.
Amendment XIV

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

"shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same"

Engaged in insurrection. Not charged, not indicted, not convicted. Engaged.

Trump has certainly engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021.


@suzianne said
Amendment XIV

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State leg ...[text shortened]... t indicted, not convicted. Engaged.

Trump has certainly engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021.
Trump did not tell his followers to go into the Capitol Building.
That was Ray Epps.

Trump said to protest peacefully, not violently.
You have no evidence.

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@suzianne said
Amendment XIV

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State leg ...[text shortened]... t indicted, not convicted. Engaged.

Trump has certainly engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021.
stupid fool
😂


@shavixmir said
[quote]No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer ...[text shortened]... t will be that then. At least the problem of him being president from prison has become a non-issue.
He doesn't have to be "found guilty" of anything.

Did he engage in insurrection or did he not? He certainly did. We all saw it.

That is the only benchmark as stated in the 14th Amendment.


@metal-brain said
Trump did not tell his followers to go into the Capitol Building.
That was Ray Epps.

Trump said to protest peacefully, not violently.
You have no evidence.
Stop with your BS conspiracy theories. Stop.

We know what the plan was for that day. All Trump had to do was light the powderkeg that day in his speech at the Ellipse. He laid it out for his followers, to march down to the Capitol and to fight like hell.

He certainly engaged in insurrection that day. We all saw it. Don't try to tell us what we saw. It happened, whether you like it or not. None of us liked it, but it happened. You cannot flap your jaw here and make it go away.