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    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    http://www.myantiwar.org/view/196133.html
    grasshopper ... where is the text? ...
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    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    grasshopper ... where is the text? ...
    The US is to abandon its doctrine of always being ready to fight two simultaneous conventional wars.

    (1999 article)

    http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/990419/archive_000774.htm
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    24 Apr '10 03:11
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    yeah. as i said. " ... China ... "
    And I said "defensive". Anyway I don't like us protecting Taiwan.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_response

    Flexible response was a defense strategy implemented by John F. Kennedy in 1961 to address the Kennedy administration's skepticism of Dwight Eisenhower's New Look and its policy of Massive Retaliation. Flexible response calls for mutual deterrence at strategic, tactical, and conventional levels, giving the United States the capability to respond to aggression across the spectrum of warfare, not limited only to nuclear arms.

    Contents

    * 1 History
    * 2 Stages in the Flexible Response
    * 3 Development of the strategic triad
    * 4 Two-and-a-half war doctrine
    * 5 Assured Destruction
    o 5.1 No-Cities doctrine
    * 6 External links

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    Two-and-a-half war doctrine

    Part of Flexible Response was the strategy of being able to fight over the entire spectrum of violence by developing diverse forces for different types of warfare. This meant being able to fight multiple wars simultaneously; specifically, the US should have the peacetime capability to fight two large regional wars and a small brushfire war at the same time. The consequence of this was to increase recruiting, investment, and research for the US force posture.
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    24 Apr '10 03:17
    I see a lot of past tense being used there. The Cold War's over.
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    24 Apr '10 04:50
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    And I said "defensive". Anyway I don't like us protecting Taiwan.
    you not liking it isn't going to make it not happen.
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    24 Apr '10 04:50
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I see a lot of past tense being used there. The Cold War's over.
    so we're friends with China now and we can sell them military tech?
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    24 Apr '10 04:51
    hasn't been that long since Loral got hit with the largest export violation fine til that date, for advising China on how to keep their Long March rockets from blowing up. $14M i think.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITAR

    International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) is a set of United States government regulations that control the export and import of defense-related articles and services on the United States Munitions List (USML).[1] These regulations implement the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act, and are described in Title 22 (Foreign Relations), Chapter I (Department of State), Subchapter M of the Code of Federal Regulations. The Department of State interprets and enforces ITAR. Its goal is to safeguard US national security and further US foreign policy objectives.[2]

    For practical purposes, ITAR regulations dictate that information and material pertaining to defense and military related technologies (for items listed on the US Munitions List) may only be shared with US Persons unless authorization from the Department of State is received or a special exemption is used.[3] US Persons (including organizations) can face heavy fines if they have, without authorization or the use of an exemption, provided foreign (non-US) persons with access to ITAR-protected defense articles, services or technical data.[4]

    The list of ITAR-controlled defense articles, services and technology (collectively “USML items&rdquo😉 changes. Until 1996–1997, ITAR classified strong cryptography as arms and prohibited their export from the U.S.[5] Another change occurred as a result of Space Systems/Loral's conduct after the February 1996 failed launch of the Intelsat 708 satellite. The Department of State charged Space Systems/Loral with violating the Arms Export Control Act and the ITAR.[6][7] As a result, technology pertaining to satellites and launch vehicles became more carefully protected.

    ITAR does not apply to information related to general scientific, mathematical or engineering principles that is commonly taught in schools and colleges or information that is (legitimately) in the public domain.[8][9] Nor does it apply to general marketing information or basic system descriptions.[10] These exceptions must, however, be treated with extreme caution: college professors have been prosecuted for breaches of the AECA as a result of access to USML items by foreign graduate students[11] and companies have been penalized for alleged breaches of the AECA where they allegedly failed to properly remove USML items from material used to market defense articles.[12] The US Government has also taken action (albeit unsuccessfully) for the export of technical data that was (allegedly) already publicly available on the internet.[13][14]
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    24 Apr '10 19:35
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Is there any US military tech we could sell to the PRC that is strictly defensive in return for a decrease in our massive debt to them? Or is that suicide? Isn't there anything innocuous but useful enough?
    Why would the PRC want to buy US military tech when they could just take it gratis?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident

    Why would US sell military tech when they could just reduce their colossal DoD budget?
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    Also, why would they want to buy from the US when Russia is more than happy to sell them their technologically advanced weaponry like their 5th generation fighter planes and SAM's?
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    Russia has 5th generation fighters?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buran_(spacecraft)
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    24 Apr '10 23:56
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Russian-5th-generation-fighter-makes-its-maiden-flight/articleshow/5512969.cms
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_generation_jet_fighter

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    Currently the only developed fifth generation jet fighters are the F-22 Raptor and the F-35 Lightning II.[4][1]

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    In the late 1980s, the Soviet Union outlined a need for a next-generation aircraft to replace 4th generation fighter aircraft: MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker in frontline service. Two projects were proposed to meet this need, the 4.5th generation fighter aircraft: Su-47 Berkut and the MiG-1.44 Flatpack. In 2002, Sukhoi was chosen to lead the design for the new combat aircraft. The 5th generation fighter aircraft - Sukhoi PAK FA (T-50) will incorporate technology from both the Su-47 and the MiG 1.44 and when fully developed is intended to replace the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the Russian inventory and serve as the basis of the Sukhoi/HAL FGFA project being developed with India.[8][9] A fifth generation jet fighter, it is designed to directly compete with the American F-22 Raptor and American/British F-35 Lightning II. The Sukhoi PAK FA performed its first flight January 29, 2010.[10][11] Russia is now constructing a new stealth lightweight multirole fighter - MiG-LMFS (aka Projekt 1.27, MiG-1.27) by Mikoyan aircraft manufacturer. This jet fighter is based on the canceled MiG 1.44.[12] As for China, PLAAF officials and researchers have confirmed the existence of fifth generation fighter programs which will enter service before 2020.

    All three revealed fifth generation fighters leverage Commercial off-the-shelf main processors to control "dumbed down" sensors to form a consolidated view of the battlespace with both onboard and networked sensors. This means that while the F-22A was physically delivered without Synthetic aperture radar or situational awareness Infra-red search and track it will gain these functions later through software upgrades.[13]
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    Yeah, Russia does have 5th gen fighters. Developed or developing, my point is, China will buy tech that can actually compete with ours.
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