@Metal-Brain saidSo you think Trump or some Epstein enemy could not possibly have killed Epstein.
The official narrative is that Epstein killed himself. Since you don't think so, doesn't that make you a conspiracy theorist?
You are throwing rocks in a glass house. By your own definition you are a conspiracy theorist. You just want to be selective in the conspiracy theories you believe. Isn't that the case with all people? Everybody has their conspiracy theories, bu ...[text shortened]... though you cannot prove stuff that you claim you cannot accept you are a conspiracy theorist, right?
Got it.
If there was no gap in the video there would not be a case but that evidence says SOMEONE was there when the video was not recording.
Someone had to stop and restart the video, that was not some accidental malfunction, too many coincidental things happening together.
This is common sense not hyperbole, it is real evidence SOMETHING happened people are going to hide to save their own sorry asses.
@sonhouse saidThen admit you are a conspiracy theorist.
So you think Trump or some Epstein enemy could not possibly have killed Epstein.
Got it.
If there was no gap in the video there would not be a case but that evidence says SOMEONE was there when the video was not recording.
Someone had to stop and restart the video, that was not some accidental malfunction, too many coincidental things happening together.
This is common s ...[text shortened]... bole, it is real evidence SOMETHING happened people are going to hide to save their own sorry asses.
That is all you have to do.
@Metal-Brain saidKISS MY ASS, that is NOT Conspiracy so called THEORY. This is looking at EVIDENCE, which you are apparently WAY to stupid to know the difference.
Then admit you are a conspiracy theorist.
That is all you have to do.
It is something for the forensic dudes to look into not me.
@sonhouse saidYou are denying the official story. Just like the JFK and RFK assassination. You cannot handle the fact that you are a conspiracy theorist.
KISS MY ASS, that is NOT Conspiracy so called THEORY. This is looking at EVIDENCE, which you are apparently WAY to stupid to know the difference.
It is something for the forensic dudes to look into not me.
@Metal-Brain saidConspiracy so called theory is a bunch of nuts putting out crap with ZERO evidence and I see one such a piece of evidence which means the charge has some wings not just some BS from Rumble.
You are denying the official story. Just like the JFK and RFK assassination. You cannot handle the fact that you are a conspiracy theorist.
@sonhouse saidYou are a nut then.
Conspiracy so called theory is a bunch of nuts putting out crap with ZERO evidence and I see one such a piece of evidence which means the charge has some wings not just some BS from Rumble.
You cannot admit to it. Just like those that believe JFK was not killed by Oswald. Everybody is a conspiracy theorist. You just don't want to admit you are.
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@Metal-Brain saidI didn't say Epstein committed suicide or was murdered, that is up to the forensic dudes, I SAID there was evidence of SOMETHING going on, missing time on a video just so happened to be video of Epstein's cell door.
You are a nut then.
You cannot admit to it. Just like those that believe JFK was not killed by Oswald. Everybody is a conspiracy theorist. You just don't want to admit you are.
That is ALL I said, There are 2 possibilities, he committed suicide or he was murdered, there is now third case here. So whatever they come up with that will be the tale they will tell 20 years from now unless there was also found some DNA not from Epstein.
This is not even CLOSE to a conspiracy 'theory'. I am not drawing conclusions, I am SAYING there is evidence to track down and ALL parties know that and exactly how much video is missing.
Conspiracy so called 'theorists' would say crap like Earth is FLAT,
We NEVER went to the moon.
crap like that, just stating utter BS with ZERO evidence.
THOSE are REAL conspiracy "theories"
@sonhouse saidDon't forget Jean Luc Brunel and Virginia Giuffre. Jean Luc Brunel died under the same circumstances as Epstein. Both had mysterious camera malfunctions in prison.
I didn't say Epstein committed suicide or was murdered, that is up to the forensic dudes, I SAID there was evidence of SOMETHING going on, missing time on a video just so happened to be video of Epstein's cell door.
That is ALL I said, There are 2 possibilities, he committed suicide or he was murdered, there is now third case here. So whatever they come up with that will be ...[text shortened]... n.
crap like that, just stating utter BS with ZERO evidence.
THOSE are REAL conspiracy "theories"
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/19/1081961087/jeffrey-epstein-jean-luc-brunel-dead
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/26/virginia-giuffre-died-without-valid-will-ntwnfb
The fact is no reasonable person believes all 3 committed suicide. Just take a poll. Nearly everyone is a conspiracy theorist, including you. It just pains you to admit the obvious because you have abused the term by using it as a pejorative for too long.
It is time for you to grow up. Stop slandering RFK jr. with rumors you heard and never verified. He had his uncle and then his father assassinated and the official story for both are ridiculous. If anybody has a right to be a conspiracy theorist it is Bobby Kennedy. Sirhan did not fire the shot that killed his father.
@Metal-Brain saidI could care less about all your babble. Epstein MAY have been murdered, or may have offed himself, up to forensics, not me.
Don't forget Jean Luc Brunel and Virginia Giuffre. Jean Luc Brunel died under the same circumstances as Epstein. Both had mysterious camera malfunctions in prison.
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/19/1081961087/jeffrey-epstein-jean-luc-brunel-dead
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/26/virginia-giuffre-died-without-valid-will-ntwnfb
The fact is no rea ...[text shortened]... o be a conspiracy theorist it is Bobby Kennedy. Sirhan did not fire the shot that killed his father.
@sonhouse saidYou have back peddled. You just don't want to admit the obvious, you are a conspiracy theorist. And spare me the "mine are not like those other conspiracy theories" BS. You know what you are and so does everyone else on here.
I could care less about all your babble. Epstein MAY have been murdered, or may have offed himself, up to forensics, not me.
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@sonhouse saidWhen they release the files and Trump is exhonerated, will that finally shut you up about them? Or will you be too busy making excuses for all your Democrat heroes that ARE on them?
House vote almost unanimous, only one repub voted no. 427 YES, release files.
Now we will find what trick Trump will pull to stop it in spite of one no vote between house AND senate.
So who was the one holdout in the House?
I still expect Trump to say, can't do it, because investigations are under way.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidIf Trump is in the files Bill Clinton is too. Sonnyboy will only be happy if only republicans are exposed. But that is unrealistic. All sonnyboy can think about is nailing Trump. He has not thought about how politicians in his own party will be exposed.
When they release the files and Trump is exhonerated, will that finally shut you up about them? Or will you be too busy making excuses for all your Democrat heroes that ARE on them?
We have a good idea that because it is a bipartisan scandal (no matter what sonnyboy thinks in his deluded mind) redactions will hide the guilt of most politicians. If that turns out to be the case nobody that wants justice will be happy.
Trump called MTG a traitor for demanding the Epstein files release. Now Trump is eager for the release. He thinks the release will silence the truth seekers because he can say they were released, but it will just turn into a corrupt redactions scandal. The release has to result in people going to prison.
They are about to release what they said didn't exist. Nobody will forget that because I will remind everybody so they cannot. This is just another phase of the coverup. They already got caught lying. First the Epstein files did not exist and now they are about to heavily redact what they said didn't exist.....but sonnyboy doesn't admit to conspiracy theories. LOL!
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There was already a conspiracy of silence. They said the files did not exist and now they admit they do. Since they are taking their time to release anything they must be redacting stuff.
They will tell you the redactions are to protect the victims, but not a single victim has claimed they need protecting. They are protecting the child molesters. The victims only need protection from the child molesters that are terrified they might go to prison for life and want to suicide them first.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virginia-giuffre-father-death-cause-b2743303.html
@Metal-Brain saidYou are the conspiracy theorist, you spout crap with ZERO evidence. I just said there was possible evidence of foul play, nothing more and it is up to forensics experts to dig in to see if there is anything to the fact there was a missing time frame very close to the death of Epstein.
You have back peddled. You just don't want to admit the obvious, you are a conspiracy theorist. And spare me the "mine are not like those other conspiracy theories" BS. You know what you are and so does everyone else on here.
That is EVIDENCE, not making wild unsubstantiated accusations.
If it turns out the video died because a camera screwed up with no human help, that is one thing but it would be quite another if a human messed up the video at such a time when someone COULD have gotten into the cell and offed Epstein and left in the couple of minutes or whatever was the gap and gone.
That is how prosecutors think, they see some evidence, they follow it down, follow the money if there was such and whatever else they could find linking a human to the lack of video.
And all that is way above my paygrade, just pointing out there IS evidence of wrongdoing. That is ALL I am saying now, I am NOT saying Trump had his goons off Epstein and he had LOTS of enemies, he had data on all the dudes screwing little girls so if there was skulduggery going on, a big IF, then there were literally hundreds of dudes who would have wanted him dead which suspiciously happened just before trial date. Which does not prove he did NOT off himself.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidAh, so in your view there are ZERO repubs on that list. Got it.
When they release the files and Trump is exhonerated, will that finally shut you up about them? Or will you be too busy making excuses for all your Democrat heroes that ARE on them?
We ALL want to see the list and let the chips fall where they may.
In YOUR case, even if Trumps name is on the list complete with payoffs from Trumps bank account you would say FAKE NEWS, WITCH HUNT.