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Originally posted by sh76Dude..............it is rarely the little cars like the Aveos that are making the news on account of operator stupidity in a blizzard. It is almost ALWAYS goddamn SUV drivers. Put an apple-pie eatin' American assmunch in an SUV and they think they're bloody invincible.
With all this talk about people going to jail for leaving guns and ammo lying around the house, it got me thinking about the morons who drive around in their Chevy Aveos in the middle of a 2 foot blizzard to get to some damn shopping mall in spite of begs and pleas from the authorities to stay home unless you HAVE TO travel.
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2 suspended. If you can't behave responsibly with a driver's license, you shouldn't have one.
Originally posted by sh76Generally speaking I tend to think the idea of venturing into Manhattan is academic unless you want to wind up knifed, car-jacked, pounded into a bloody pulp, or otherwise hammered into the shape of a pomegranate. I've also noticed, upon one such venture in a wholly expendable Geo Metro years ago, that all the bumpers on the streets were scratched and dented. Bloody hell hole.
Suggestion: If you do visit NYC (and it's a wonderful place to visit) DO NOT tour Manhattan by car, especially on a week day. It's very high stress, high intensity driving with heavy traffic, confusing directions and signs and it's near impossible to park unless you park in a garage, which will cost you an arm, a leg and your first born.
Plus, there is such ...[text shortened]... e around in a car anyway. It's much less stressful not having a car in Manhattan, trust me.
Originally posted by sh76A public health issue? Now that opens up a can of worms does it not? What about: Enviornmental laws, child labor laws, consumer protection laws: Most of which were voted against by Republicans, citing it would be bad for business. These were all public health issues the G O P had no problem opposing. Now you want to make an exception for weather? Better be careful...your Republican friends will start calling you a closet Liberal!
Actually, I think it's more the type of government interference that Republicans like. 😉
In all seriousness, this is a public health issue, not a privacy issue. People don't have a privacy interest in behaving in a manner that endangers the public.
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Originally posted by SoothfastTypical snap judgment based on reputation and not reality. New York is the safest big city the US and most of Manhattan south of Central Park are among the safest parts of the city. If you're afraid to move around midtown or downtown during the day for fear of crime you're either clueless or paranoid.
Generally speaking I tend to think the idea of venturing into Manhattan is academic unless you want to wind up knifed, car-jacked, pounded into a bloody pulp, or otherwise hammered into the shape of a pomegranate. I've also noticed, upon one such venture in a wholly expendable Geo Metro years ago, that all the bumpers on the streets were scratched and dented. Bloody hell hole.
As for the driving, yes, driving is tough. There is a lot of tight traffic and thousands of cabs and millions of pedestrians who have no time to let you actually get to where you're going. That's why you take the train or the bus or a cab and leave the car at home.
Originally posted by sh76Absolutely. I definitely want to visit NYC again and I doubt I'd want to drive it.
Suggestion: If you do visit NYC (and it's a wonderful place to visit) DO NOT tour Manhattan by car, especially on a week day. It's very high stress, high intensity driving with heavy traffic, confusing directions and signs and it's near impossible to park unless you park in a garage, which will cost you an arm, a leg and your first born.
Plus, there is such ...[text shortened]... e around in a car anyway. It's much less stressful not having a car in Manhattan, trust me.
It's a great city that I don't know if I want to live in, but I love to visit 🙂
Originally posted by sh76So many people have such a ridiculous vision of big cities - and NYC is the icon of big cities.
Typical snap judgment based on reputation and not reality. New York is the safest big city the US and most of Manhattan south of Central Park are among the safest parts of the city. If you're afraid to move around midtown or downtown during the day for fear of crime you're either clueless or paranoid.
As for the driving, yes, driving is tough. There is a lot ...[text shortened]... e you're going. That's why you take the train or the bus or a cab and leave the car at home.
Originally posted by sh76If there is no difference between a 'warning' and a 'law', then don't call them 'warnings.' Americans should be free to do with 'warnings' what they will -- heed them or ignore them. That's freedom.
With all this talk about people going to jail for leaving guns and ammo lying around the house, it got me thinking about the morons who drive around in their Chevy Aveos in the middle of a 2 foot blizzard to get to some damn shopping mall in spite of begs and pleas from the authorities to stay home unless you HAVE TO travel.
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2 ...[text shortened]... suspended. If you can't behave responsibly with a driver's license, you shouldn't have one.
Freedom to ignore warnings is not good because it is particularly advisable -- it is good because broad freedom of action encourages individuals to be more independent, vigorous and creative -- useful transferable skills.
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Originally posted by spruce112358Now they're merely warnings. My proposal was to make them into laws.
If there is no difference between a 'warning' and a 'law', then don't call them 'warnings.' Americans should be free to do with 'warnings' what they will -- heed them or ignore them. That's freedom.
Freedom to ignore warnings is not good because it is particularly advisable -- it is good because broad freedom of action encourages individuals to be more independent, vigorous and creative -- useful transferable skills.
I agree in principal with the second statement. But grand social theories end where public safety begins.