Should the unemployed be drug-tested?
11 Dec '11 17:25UI should be a lifetime entitlement if need be. Nobody should ever be cut off.
11 Dec '11 20:33Originally posted by badmoonSo you want to pay for people to sit around and use drugs? From what I hear that is about half of the population. They don't have the work-ethic like Newt Gingrich. They just want to smoke dope and make posts advocating the election of Ron Paul. (Of course, I hope they'll elect him 'cause he'll straighten their lazy butts right out. None of them will collect unemployment under his watch.)
UI should be a lifetime entitlement if need be. Nobody should ever be cut off.
19 Dec '11 01:18Originally posted by TerrierJackWhat do you mean YOUR tax dollars going to SS recipients getting high? My benefits come directly from the frigging SS tax I paid into the system for 50 years. It's my frigging money, I frigging earned it. If I want to get high on it, That's MY business.
So you are so saying that you should not have to be tested to receive unemployment benefits? How about Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid? Why should my tax dollars go to your Social Security check if you are going to sit around high all day? Do you think you have a right to government money if you're going to use it to purchase drugs?
19 Dec '11 18:06Originally posted by badmoonIf UI was free, then I could see your point. Too bad we can't just have the government cut everyone a $50K check every year. I think we'd all be better off if we all have an extra 50K in our pockets.
UI should be a lifetime entitlement if need be. Nobody should ever be cut off.
19 Dec '11 22:00Originally posted by EladarThe US could easily afford a guaranteed minimum income of say $10k.
If UI was free, then I could see your point. Too bad we can't just have the government cut everyone a $50K check every year. I think we'd all be better off if we all have an extra 50K in our pockets.
21 Dec '11 16:28Originally posted by TerrierJackThe title of this thread is a bit misleading. It isn't the unemployed who might get drug tested, it is the unemployed who are begging money from the government. In other words, those people who are not working and want to take my money (the taxes I pay).
In the House, Republicans have proposed a bill that would slash 40 weeks from the duration of federal unemployment compensation and allow states to require the unemployed to pass drug tests in order to receive benefits. Should passing a drug-test be required in order to receive unemployment compensation?
21 Dec '11 18:37Originally posted by EladarYou are suggesting people be put under tremendous stress with no relief. There are consequences to such policies.
The title of this thread is a bit misleading. It isn't the unemployed who might get drug tested, it is the unemployed who are begging money from the government. In other words, those people who are not working and want to take my money (the taxes I pay).
I see nothing wrong with saying if you can't pass a drug test you can't have tax payer money.
If you are unemployed and doing drugs then you are a worthless and do not deserve free money.
21 Dec '11 18:51Originally posted by EladarPeople who are eligible for unemployment are those who have held a job for a significant period of time but lost their job through no fault of their own. Even if they had used drugs, they were able to retain gainful employment. Borderline hate speech directed at them is misplaced; they are not "beggars" but those who are legally entitled to relief due to economic circumstances beyond their control. One of the purposes of the program is to counteract the depressionary effect of high unemployment on the economy; absent such a program and other economic stabilizers moralistic blowhards like yourself might find themselves without a job.
The title of this thread is a bit misleading. It isn't the unemployed who might get drug tested, it is the unemployed who are begging money from the government. In other words, those people who are not working and want to take my money (the taxes I pay).
I see nothing wrong with saying if you can't pass a drug test you can't have tax payer money.
If you are unemployed and doing drugs then you are a worthless and do not deserve free money.
21 Dec '11 19:37Originally posted by no1marauderThumb up thingy from me no.1marauder. Your statement is spot on.
People who are eligible for unemployment are those who have held a job for a significant period of time but lost their job through no fault of their own. Even if they had used drugs, they were able to retain gainful employment. Borderline hate speech directed at them is misplaced; they are not "beggars" but those who are legally entitled to relief due to ...[text shortened]... r economic stabilizers moralistic blowhards like yourself might find themselves without a job.
21 Dec '11 22:39Originally posted by EladarDo you realize how many rich people fall into the category of unemployed and using drugs!?
The title of this thread is a bit misleading. It isn't the unemployed who might get drug tested, it is the unemployed who are begging money from the government. In other words, those people who are not working and want to take my money (the taxes I pay).
I see nothing wrong with saying if you can't pass a drug test you can't have tax payer money.
If you are unemployed and doing drugs then you are a worthless and do not deserve free money.
21 Dec '11 23:47Originally posted by TerrierJackDidn't we go through something like this in Florida where the drug test positive rate of aid recipients turned out to be much lower than the public at large?
In the House, Republicans have proposed a bill that would slash 40 weeks from the duration of federal unemployment compensation and allow states to require the unemployed to pass drug tests in order to receive benefits. Should passing a drug-test be required in order to receive unemployment compensation?
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