Originally posted by PinkFloydSo far I think that KM seems to favor taxing the middle class if they make over 50K. But then, KM is so in love with taxes he probably thinks that their standard of living goes up proportionally to their tax rate increasing. 😛
I put the number at approaching zero
Originally posted by Sam The ShamI'm with Sam on this.
Taxes wouldn't be a problem if we got our ridiculous military spending in line.
1. We have to stop being the world's police we have no business having troops anywhere but in America.
2. After we close all our bases overseas we can drastically reduce the size of our military.
3. Our military is hideously overpaid. We need to freeze their pay increas ...[text shortened]... ey, their pay and benefits equal over 30,000 dollars a year on the outside. That's TOO MUCH.
Originally posted by whodeyI think we all should accept that the massive tax reductions done over the last 30 years are unsustainable unless there are draconian cuts in spending. If tax rates for the middle class have to be modestly increased, so be it.
So far I think that KM seems to favor taxing the middle class if they make over 50K. But then, KM is so in love with taxes he probably thinks that their standard of living goes up proportionally to their tax rate increasing. 😛
Originally posted by no1marauderYou chose to live in a society without 'modestly increased taxes'.
I think we all should accept that the massive tax reductions done over the last 30 years are unsustainable unless there are draconian cuts in spending. If tax rates for the middle class have to be modestly increased, so be it.
Deal with it.
Originally posted by CliffLandinThat was my point, I don't use that type of argument but was just handing back something D had just tried on me, it's pointless, childish and redundant but sometimes the best way is to dish it back so that he gets a taste of his own medicine.
Ha! You chose to live in a society that wants government run healthcare. Deal with it.
Or rather, one that wanted it last year, but might not this year.
Ah, the fickle winds of change...
Originally posted by TeinosukeIn case you had not noticed, the middle class has been shrinking for some time. I guess it will shrink some more.
I'd probably be drowned out by the chorus of whodeys telling the middle class that they're going to lose every penny they ever earned.
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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Taxes wouldn't be a problem if we got our ridiculous military spending in line.
1. We have to stop being the world's police we have no business having troops anywhere but in America.
2. After we close all our bases overseas we can drastically reduce the size of our military.
3. Our military is hideously overpaid. We need to freeze their pay increas ey, their pay and benefits equal over 30,000 dollars a year on the outside. That's TOO MUCH.
"1.Our military is hideously overpaid. We need to freeze their pay increases until they fall back to reasonable levels.
2. Privates in basic training make an obscene amount of money, their pay and benefits equal over 30,000 dollars a year on the outside."- sam the sham
E-1 pay grade = $17,366 per year. ( Pay for Private (E1) will be slightly lower for the first four months of service)
Now factor in eating in the chow hall, and sleeping in the barracks part of the year and a "shelter half" on the ground the other part of the year. And the medical facilities. Is that a $13,000 + value giving you the $ 30,000 + equality to the civilian world you speak of ? Perhaps it is.
However what job in the civilian world are you expected to give your life at a moments notice?
The closest comparison would be a police officer. But they are not expected to give up their lives in combat.
Whose Job is more hazerdous? And whose job puts more strain on their families?
I am really amazed to hear you say these things and actually believe it is only parody on your part. At least I hope so.
If any thing the service members are paid too little.
http://www.goarmy.com/benefits/money/basic-pay-active-duty-soldiers.html