15 Mar 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesYou keep thinking that!
Presumably, those who voted for it when it passed the first time agree that this healthcare reform is a good thing or they wouldn't have voted for it to begin with. Regardless of what the polls now say, they can't go back and undo their previous vote.
So they can either go with option A and vote for it and argue "that's my story and I'm sticking to it ...[text shortened]... ters will have nothing but disdain for the weathervanes who just shift with the winds.
They are elected officials to represent their constituents.
They seem to have an elitest mentality that they know what is best no matter what their constituents want.
Its over for many of them! Trust me on that.
15 Mar 10
Originally posted by utherpendragonIts time to take a stand in favor of elitism!! Elected officials are supposed to have an elitist mentality.
You keep thinking that!
They are elected officials to represent their constituents.
They seem to have an elitest mentality that they know what is best no matter what their constituents want.
Its over for many of them! Trust me on that.
They've been elected to gather large amounts of information and consult with large numbers of people, and then engage in much debate. If after doing all of that, they are convinced that voting for or against a given bill is what they believe is in the best interests of their constituents or the American people as a whole. That is what they should do.
If after going through all that, they're going to suddenly turn to jelly and go against what they believe, just because the current poll winds are blowing a certain way, then they're a bunch of cowards not worthy of the job they've been elected to do.
Its like going to see your doctor. That doctor has spent a lot of time and energy learning about how to make a diagnosis and prescribe the best treatment. This makes him or her an ELITE. While the doctor should actively listen while the patient discusses their symptoms and concerns, he needs to then BE ELITIST and prescribe what he thinks is best and explain why - regardless of how vehemently the patient may disagree.
16 Mar 10
Originally posted by Melanerpesare you insane?
Its time to take a stand in favor of elitism!! Elected officials are supposed to have an elitist mentality.
They've been elected to gather large amounts of information and consult with large numbers of people, and then engage in much debate. If after doing all of that, they are convinced that voting for or against a given bill is what they believe is i ...[text shortened]... t he thinks is best and explain why - regardless of how vehemently the patient may disagree.
16 Mar 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesMel has something of a point.
Its time to take a stand in favor of elitism!! Elected officials are supposed to have an elitist mentality.
They've been elected to gather large amounts of information and consult with large numbers of people, and then engage in much debate. If after doing all of that, they are convinced that voting for or against a given bill is what they believe is i ...[text shortened]... t he thinks is best and explain why - regardless of how vehemently the patient may disagree.
16 Mar 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesWell said.
Its time to take a stand in favor of elitism!! Elected officials are supposed to have an elitist mentality. They've been elected to gather large amounts of information and consult with large numbers of people, and then engage in much debate. If after doing all of that, they are convinced that voting for or against a given bill is what they believe is in t ...[text shortened]... interests of their constituents or the American people as a whole. That is what they should do.
16 Mar 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesAh, that's why the Dr first diagnosed my MS, as a ulner nerve problem. Then it was a back problem, which moved to a neck problem. I told him, and my HR specialist at work it was MS, both just smiled and said no.
Its time to take a stand in favor of elitism!! Elected officials are supposed to have an elitist mentality.
They've been elected to gather large amounts of information and consult with large numbers of people, and then engage in much debate. If after doing all of that, they are convinced that voting for or against a given bill is what they believe is i ...[text shortened]... t he thinks is best and explain why - regardless of how vehemently the patient may disagree.
I had a friend with MS, he had it 35 years before he died...I had studied it quite frequently.
So, that was over the course of 5 years.
So if you have studied something, and decided what is best for the people, you just continue on, or do you listen to doubts? Do you ask questions about costs?
It's like George Armstrong Custer turning his troops back before they get wiped out, he was somewhat an elitist, cost him his whole dam regiment.
16 Mar 10
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Originally posted by MelanerpesSo as long as they maintain an elitist mentality they are free to breach the Constitution? Hmmm. 🙄
Its time to take a stand in favor of elitism!! Elected officials are supposed to have an elitist mentality.
They've been elected to gather large amounts of information and consult with large numbers of people, and then engage in much debate. If after doing all of that, they are convinced that voting for or against a given bill is what they believe is i t he thinks is best and explain why - regardless of how vehemently the patient may disagree.
What is funny is that this is the ONLY arguement to date that those on the left have provided thus far, and it really is no arguement at all. Where is USAParachute man when you need him? Then again, if I were him I would probably be laying low right about now.
The simply fact of the matter is, this proposed legislation would not have been suggested had it not been for the current proposed Obamacare legislation. It was designed specifically for it and the statists care little about the reprecussions for its violation of Constitutional law. It reminds me of how Senator Kennedy tried to change the laws in MA right before he died to try and prevent someone like Senator Brown from being elected. Of course, he failed to change the laws in time, but again, it was done ONLY for the sole purpose of passing one peice of legislation which is Obamacare. I suspect they would trash the entire Constitution if it is required to pass Obamacare. That is just how driven these folks are.
16 Mar 10
Originally posted by joneschrDon't know - but even this thread has not made any clear case about it - the 'news' seems to be what people on hyperventilating blogs "think" about it, instead of proper analysis or explanation. Maybe it's a sinister thing, indeed. Or maybe it's blather. I'm waiting for someone to post an honest breakdown of what it is and what it actually means.
Why isn't the mainstream media covering this at all?
16 Mar 10
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Originally posted by FMFKinda hard to do when no one seems to want to talk about it. 😉
Don't know - but even this thread has not made any clear case about it - the 'news' seems to be what people on hyperventilating blogs "think" about it, instead of proper analysis or explanation. Maybe it's a sinister thing, indeed. Or maybe it's blather. I'm waiting for someone to post an honest breakdown of what it is and what it actually means.