@fornichessate saidDo you even read the news these days (or ever)?
The USA is the largest consumer.
They can renegotiate, or other countries can try to sell elsewhere.
At the moment it seems every other country is adjusting their trade arrangements in a way that does not include the USA (except when unavoidable).
May I ask who you are and in which region of this planet you reside (for the sake of context and understanding), and why you have come back after so many years of silence?
@Arkturos saidHis teachers studiously avoided Ricardo, if you said Ricardo, he would go, OH, from I love Lucy, right? RICHIE Ricardo, yep, quite the dude and great musician.
@sonhouse
Trump must not remember or understand David Ricardo's arguments in favor of free trade, which used to be among the first concepts introduced in Economics 101 courses half a century ago.
@sonhouse saidTo be fair, in my classes back in the day, Ricardo's first name was never mentioned.
His teachers studiously avoided Ricardo, if you said Ricardo, he would go, OH, from I love Lucy, right? RICHIE Ricardo, yep, quite the dude and great musician.
Had no idea his name was David Ricardo and that he was British until just minutes ago.
@sonhouse saidShow link that ‘someone else’ ‘proves’ that $200 B was stolen from US, and by whom.
You are full of dog poop. Can't use the word I want. You are functionally insane, a sociopath at the very least.
Tell me how STEALING 200 BILLION from US, is supposed to help anyone.
That is 200 billion THIS YEAR. This is OUR FKING MONEY YOU IDIOT.
Can’t wait.
@Chuck-2 saidJimmy Carter and Biden were not monsters. Look what they got done.
I always thought Americans were brash and self centred,But the Trumpmiester has taken it up another 10 levels, I know loads of people in my area who like to holiday in the USA but most say no way til the monsters gone.
Whom would you have in mind to make America great again. I have asked that question of all the regulars here, not ONE answer.
So, there has to be SOMEBODY, we will have to let Trump do. Note though, that most of it, such as that of Sonhouse, is personal animosity. Charles Darwin was disliked.
Steve Jobs was brilliant but notoriously difficult , disliked by colleagues,,,even Henry Ford was disliked, as they bought his cars like crazy.
Thanks, Henry. Thanks, Trump. You boys keep on keepin' on.
@AverageJoe1 saidThe USA is derided throughout Europe ,Canada and here in the UK the USA was never great just full of great lumps, but there you go Trump makes it worse again, I like the way he did a U Turn on Greenland the mans a liar and a pervert God Help America.
Jimmy Carter and Biden were not monsters. Look what they got done.
Whom would you have in mind to make America great again. I have asked that question of all the regulars here, not ONE answer.
So, there has to be SOMEBODY, we will have to let Trump do. Note though, that most of it, such as that of Sonhouse, is personal animosity. Charles Darwin was disliked.
...[text shortened]... s they bought his cars like crazy.
Thanks, Henry. Thanks, Trump. You boys keep on keepin' on.
@Chuck-2 saidHe is a leader, employing negotiating tactics which include what you call lying.
The USA is derided throughout Europe ,Canada and here in the UK the USA was never great just full of great lumps, but there you go Trump makes it worse again, I like the way he did a U Turn on Greenland the mans a liar and a pervert God Help America.
If I am playing a card trick and fool you into thinking that the card on the top is an Ace, did I lie? You fellers are so naive.
USA is derided? No, I call it jealousy myself. And Trump is treated with great respect at G8, et al, so methinks ye protest a bit too much
“ Mass Media and Mass Formation on the Left
Sasha Stone
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People are curious as to how the Left became so disconnected from reality and so unhinged. It has to do with Mass Formation Psychosis (Robert Malone, Mattias Desmet). Other examples in history include: Nazi Germany, when an entire country was taken under the spell of mass media via the radio, and Hitler's speeches "went viral." The desperate circumstances of Germany at the time - starvation, inflation, poverty - led to extreme fear and despair, which in turn led to mass formation, which in turn led to the Holocaust. Anyone who would dissent would be attacked and eliminated.
Desmet:
Another example was the Jim Crow South. The mass hysteria sold to the people ahead of the Civil War meant that should the slaves be freed, chaos would ensue. They become murderous and threatening because they do not know how to live as free citizens. It sounds crazy, but that is what they were convinced to believe, via mass media, once again with the telegraph, which allowed for news to spread farther and faster to more people at once. If you were in the South, you'd mostly only get one kind of news, just as the people in Germany were similarly cut off.
Segregation and the Jim Crow South were the result of mass hysteria and the trauma of losing a bloody Civil War. That was what they did with all of that collective fear and mass formation took hold, making it almost impossible for anyone not go along with it. They would be hunted down and eliminated.
We can also look at Salem in 1692 when the girls began convulsing, sending waves of fear throughout the isolated village. This occurred in the dead of a freezing winter, with nonstop attacks by the Native Americans, not to mention smallpox and other things that scared them. Witchcraft became the threat, and by the end of it, 20 people would hang - people everyone already knew. Children and animals were accused of being witches. The mass media here were the printing press, which enabled the book on witchcraft to be published and to become widespread.
And now we have 2020 and everything that happened that year, which led to mass formation by those on the Left because they trusted legacy media - CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times -- and mass media once again led the people astray. Part of that threat is their false belief that MAGA is a cult and that it's that side in mass formation. But anyone on the Right knows that isn't true. There is too much dissent, too many conflicting groups, and no one is afraid to say what they think.
Desmet:
The trauma of COVID, the lockdowns, the Trump madness, the manipulation by the "secret bi-partisan cabal" to gaslight the public and keep them voting for the Democrats led to mass formation. That meant anyone who asked questions, pushed back, or dissented from the rules was attacked and eventually pushed out.
MAGA became the threat such that even when the Democrats took power, they couldn't let go of it. It was existential because it threatened the cohesive whole, the mass formation. So they had to keep prosecuting Trump in an attempt to put him in jail, throw him off the ballot, etc. MAGA was just exiled from society, pushed to the margins, and forbidden from participating in culture.
The only thing that's strange about it is that no one inside the formation realizes what has happened to them. You would only realize if you were like me, and things didn't make sense, and you began asking questions. Once you are marked as one of the bad things, you are out. There is no way back in.
The danger of this mass formation is that all of them have reached the point of delusion and dehumanization of their threat. So, assassinating Charlie Kirk felt good and right to them. Some of them began to wake up and see what had happened to the Left, but most of them didn't. They would be happy and relieved to see all of MAGA thrown in concentration camps now, with none of them feeling safe to push back.
The media can't snap them out of it because they're caught up in it too, but they also know it could cost them their reputations and their jobs if they humanize Trump and his supporters. Bill Maher has done this, but he is always careful to signal to them that he shares their delusion about Trump. In a mass formation, you are all the way in or you are all the way out. You can imagine how a mass formation would react emotionally to, say, the renaming of the Kennedy Center.
If you tried to talk to a person of Salem in 1692, or to a German in WWII, or a white southerner amid Jim Crow, and tried to just talk to them about the so-called "threat," they would have a meltdown. They couldn't handle it because it goes to the core of the formation, which they find too threatening. I have experienced this every time I try to speak about politics to anyone who watches MS Now.
Today's Left would say, but Trump really is bad, and his supporters really are Nazis. So too would the Puritans in Salem, who would insist that witches were real, and in the Jim Crow South, that Black people really were dangerous, or that Jews really were evil and bad in Nazi Germany. These are deeply held beliefs that have led to crimes against humanity unlike any we've seen in the modern era, at least not yet. We should be very worried if mass formation regains power.”