The reign of terror continues:
President Hugo Chávez has used his decree powers to carry out a major overhaul of this country’s intelligence agencies, provoking a fierce backlash here from human rights groups and legal scholars who say the measures will force citizens to inform on one another to avoid prison terms:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/world/americas/03venez.html
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI hope he hasnt been reading up on the house unamerican activities committee in his spare time.
The reign of terror continues:
President Hugo Chávez has used his decree powers to carry out a major overhaul of this country’s intelligence agencies, provoking a fierce backlash here from human rights groups and legal scholars who say the measures will force citizens to inform on one another to avoid prison terms:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/world/americas/03venez.html
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterCant you just quit spreading this anti-communist bulls**t ?
More than likely, he's been patterning his plan after Cuba's.
I don't know why you talk about human rights and the the Venezuelan intelligence agencies, why don't you talk about the CIA -backed coup de etat against Hugo Chavez in 2002 ???
or maybe about human rights abuses by american troops in Iraq?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_chavez#2002:_Coup_and_strike.2Flockout
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After Chávez resumed his presidency in April 2002, he claimed that a plane with U.S. registration numbers had visited and been berthed at Venezuela's Orchila Island airbase, where Chávez had been held captive. On May 14, 2002, Chávez alleged that he had definitive proof of U.S. military involvement in April's coup. He claimed that during the coup Venezuelan radar images had indicated the presence of U.S. naval vessels and aircraft in Venezuelan waters and airspace. The Guardian published a claim by former US intelligence officer Wayne Madsen alleging U.S. Navy involvement.[42] U.S. Senator Christopher Dodd, D-CT, requested an investigation of concerns that Washington appeared to condone the removal of Mr Chávez,[43][44] which subsequently found that "U.S. officials acted appropriately and did nothing to encourage an April coup against Venezuela's president," nor did they provide any naval logistical support.[45][46] According to Democracy Now!, CIA documents indicate that the Bush administration knew about a plot weeks before the April 2002 military coup. They cite a document dated April 6, 2002, which says: "dissident military factions... are stepping up efforts to organize a coup against President Chávez, possibly as early as this month." According to William Brownfield, ambassador to Venezuela, the U.S. embassy in Venezuela warned Chávez about a coup plot in April 2002.[47] The United States Department of State and the investigation by the Office of the Inspector General found no evidence that "U.S. assistance programs in Venezuela, including those funded by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), were inconsistent with U.S. law or policy" or "... directly contributed, or was intended to contribute, to [the coup d'état]."[48][45] Payments by the NED had been stepped up in the weeks preceding the coup. According to The Observer, the coup was approved by the government of the United States, acting through senior officials, including Otto Reich and Elliott Abrams, who had long histories in the U.S.-backed "dirty wars" in Central America in the 1980s, and top coup plotters, including Pedro Carmona himself, began visits to the White House months before the coup and by the man President George Bush tasked to be his key policy-maker for Latin America, Otto Reich.[49][49]
Chávez also claimed, during the coup's immediate aftermath, that the U.S. was still seeking his overthrow. On October 6, 2002, he stated that he had foiled a new coup plot, and on October 20, 2002, he stated that he had barely escaped an assassination attempt while returning from a trip to Europe. During that period, the US Ambassador to Venezuela, Charles Shapiro, warned the Chávez administration of two potential assassination plots.[47]
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Originally posted by generalissimoIt's not my anti-communist bulls**t -- this was all reported in the New York Times, the most respected liberal newspaper in the United States. Besides, if the New York Times doesn't back your leftist Bolivarian revolution, then you must really be doing something bad.
Cant you just quit spreading this anti-communist bulls**t ?
I don't know why you talk about human rights and the the Venezuelan intelligence agencies, why don't you talk about the CIA -backed coup de etat against Hugo Chavez in 2002 ???
or maybe about human rights abuses by american troops in Iraq?
Originally posted by der schwarze Ritterfair enough...
It's not my anti-communist bulls**t -- this was all reported in the New York Times, the most respected liberal newspaper in the United States. Besides, if the New York Times doesn't back your leftist Bolivarian revolution, then you must really be doing something bad.
By the way, Im not leftist, I was just questioning your anti-chavismo (or anti-communism)....
how am i doing something bad!
Originally posted by generalissimoJust read the story. It's right out of the era of the Stalinist purges in the Soviet Union or the Cultural Revolution in Maoist China.
fair enough...
By the way, Im not leftist, I was just questioning your anti-chavismo (or anti-communism)....
how am i doing something bad!
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI did just read the story. I'd say it's right out of the era in which most Latin American countries were U.S. client 'National Security States'.
Just read the story. It's right out of the era of the Stalinist purges in the Soviet Union or the Cultural Revolution in Maoist China.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterJust the actions of another petty dictator. Apparently what he has failed to realize like dictators before him, the more you tighten your gripe around the peoples' neck, the quicker the power over the people slips through your fingers like grains of sand. I give Hugo another year before he is swept from power.
The reign of terror continues:
President Hugo Chávez has used his decree powers to carry out a major overhaul of this country’s intelligence agencies, provoking a fierce backlash here from human rights groups and legal scholars who say the measures will force citizens to inform on one another to avoid prison terms:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/world/americas/03venez.html
Originally posted by SMSBear716If the price of oil falls, he'd be out of there in a couple of months. I've been to Venezuela and have many family members here in Dallas. They have a wonderful country with loving, thoughtful, caring people. It's a shame how Chavez is wrecking their country.
Just the actions of another petty dictator. Apparently what he has failed to realize like dictators before him, the more you tighten your gripe around the peoples' neck, the quicker the power over the people slips through your fingers like grains of sand. I give Hugo another year before he is swept from power.
Originally posted by kmax871950's committee that was disbanded because it was recognized for what it was. thanks for bringing it up and being so smug and self-righteous about it, as usual.
I hope he hasnt been reading up on the house unamerican activities committee in his spare time.