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31 May 06
31 May 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsI don't understand how they aren't innocent.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
I guess you could argue that since they are members of the country they could have worked to prevent the war and are thereby responsible. Personally though I think a "country" is defined more by its government than by its people.
31 May 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsI think the idea is that wars involving civilians are messier and more brutal. Since each side can attack the other's civilians, it's to neither of their benefit to do so as it will invite retaliation. However the foes the US and allies face today do not respect these "rules of war", and to some extent neither do the US or it's allies.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
01 Jun 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsSounds like you're repeating the same theme. Be careful you don't get banned like STANG did !
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
01 Jun 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsHere's an irrelevant quote I've always liked. "Everyone is innocent of something." I forget the author, maybe Lewis Carroll.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
02 Jun 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsThat's a very interesting question and I keep thinking about it without coming up with any reasonable answer. I suspect that the legal answer lies somewhere in a definition of a contract, implied or real, that exists between the citizens of a country and their responsibility to each other and to the government of that country, and that government's responsibility to its citizens.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
02 Jun 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsThis must partly rest on the nature of the war itself.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
If this is about Iraq, as I suspect it probably is, then surely the Iraqi citizenry are innocents in the sense that they were invaded by a foreign power (or powers if you like).
02 Jun 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsThe countries themselves do not go to war, as there may be conscientious objectors.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsLet's get this thread back to the top and see if we can get more discussion. Seems like a very interesting question to me.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsIraq did not go to war.
I put this question in another debate thread but thought i would start a different one for it.
When there is a war, do the soldiers go to war or do the countries go to war? If its the countries that go to war, then how can we say that non-soldiers that are killed are innocent?
Iraq was invaded.
Innocent people died in Iraq.
America has created more terrorists.
However, the terrorists may now be regarded as soldiers.
Well done America !
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by Sambo69Stuff the propaganda, Stang, and take a shot at dealing with the question posed in the original post.
Iraq did not go to war.
Iraq was invaded.
Innocent people died in Iraq.
America has created more terrorists.
However, the terrorists may now be regarded as soldiers.
Well done America !