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There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind...

Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working" and children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. Metal Brain hears it and believes it whole cloth, even though I could find hundreds of research articles and thousands of other scientists who disagree. There is nothing anyone can say to change Metal Brain's mind.

Donald J. Trump says his border security solutions are working. Earl and Mott believe him whole cloth, even though Border Patrol statistics show more successful illegal entries in 2019 compared to 2016. Nothing anyone can say will change a Trumpers mind on this though.

The My Pillow guy says the election was stolen. Millions of people listen to what the My Pillow Guy says and think, "You know what, he makes pillows but also some really good points about election fraud."

What's up with the cognitive dissonance? Why can't people change their minds with new and better information? I can see why this has led many people to think that we need to stop people from saying deliberately harmful things, because a large number of people will hear it, agree with it, and never change their minds.

What's the solution here? Facts don't matter.

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@wildgrass said
There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind...

Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working" and children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. Metal Brain hears it and believes it whole cloth, even though I could find hundreds of research artic ...[text shortened]... ar it, agree with it, and never change their minds.

What's the solution here? Facts don't matter.
Legal actions allowing for the loser to
be held liable for all litigation fees incurred.

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@wildgrass said
There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind...

Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working" and children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. Metal Brain hears it and believes it whole cloth, even though I could find hundreds of research artic ...[text shortened]... ar it, agree with it, and never change their minds.

What's the solution here? Facts don't matter.
Children will be hospitalized, there are children that react badly to every shot, there are children who do not receive any shots for anything because of the potential for a bad reaction.

You're spreading intentional misinformation.

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@Wajoma
So now you know more than the REAL virologists and geneticists who figured out how safe these meds are. Amazing. Where did you get your PhD in virology? I would LOVE to see your thesis defense.

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@wajoma said
Children will be hospitalized, there are children that react badly to every shot, there are children who do not receive any shots for anything because of the potential for a bad reaction.

You're spreading intentional misinformation.
As I said, you guys wear lies like a cheap suit. Everyone can tell, except the right doesn't care, because they're stupid.

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And the mainstream media claimed for literally years that President Trump had colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election until Special Counsel Mueller found no evidence of that.

And when it turned out that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had funded a disinformation dossier on Trump from a foreign source, the media ignored it.

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@wajoma said
Children will be hospitalized, there are children that react badly to every shot, there are children who do not receive any shots for anything because of the potential for a bad reaction.

You're spreading intentional misinformation.
Opinions don't count,
only facts...........hello?
LINK?

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@pb1022 said
And the mainstream media claimed for literally years that President Trump had colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election until Special Counsel Mueller found no evidence of that.

And when it turned out that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had funded a disinformation dossier on Trump from a foreign source, the media ignored it.
Bulls---!!

Have you read the Mueller Report?

Apparently not.

"A foreign source."
Christopher David Steele is a British former intelligence officer with the Secret Intelligence Service from 1987 until his retirement in 2009. He ran the Russia desk at MI6 headquarters in London between 2006 and 2009. (Wikipedia)

But you'd rather trust Russians, after they interfere in our elections.

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@wajoma said
Children will be hospitalized, there are children that react badly to every shot, there are children who do not receive any shots for anything because of the potential for a bad reaction.

You're spreading intentional misinformation.
I'll not debate the science here, but l stand by my assertion that 'children will be hospitalized' is deliberate misinformation. People are decapitated by their own seat belts, but using that fact to say that "seatbelts kill people" is a deliberately misleading statement (i.e. you are intentionally trying to misinform people). I hope you can understand the distinction here.

Anyways, you've illustrated a key point of this thread. People have dug trenches of opinion and nothing - new data, statistics, an army of scientists - will convince them to crawl out. Why?

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@pb1022 said
And the mainstream media claimed for literally years that President Trump had colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election until Special Counsel Mueller found no evidence of that.

And when it turned out that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had funded a disinformation dossier on Trump from a foreign source, the media ignored it.
Yeah I should have included some examples of the lefts intentional misinformation in order to avoid these types of comments, but the question is why? And how do we fix it?

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@wildgrass said
I'll not debate the science here, but l stand by my assertion that 'children will be hospitalized' is deliberate misinformation. People are decapitated by their own seat belts, but using that fact to say that "seatbelts kill people" is a deliberately misleading statement (i.e. you are intentionally trying to misinform people). I hope you can understand the distinction here. ...[text shortened]... of opinion and nothing - new data, statistics, an army of scientists - will change their minds. Why?
Children will be hospitalized by the fakecine. That is not misinformation.

You may be decapitated by your seat belt. That is not misinformation.

Perhaps you should offer a retraction for that example in the OP, show some integrity, admit to your own misinformation and one eyed views

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@wajoma said
Children will be hospitalized by the fakecine. That is not misinformation.

You may be decapitated by your seat belt. That is not misinformation.
So... do you wear a seat belt?

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@suzianne said
Bulls---!!

Have you read the Mueller Report?

Apparently not.

"A foreign source."
Christopher David Steele is a British former intelligence officer with the Secret Intelligence Service from 1987 until his retirement in 2009. He ran the Russia desk at MI6 headquarters in London between 2006 and 2009. (Wikipedia)

But you'd rather trust Russians, after they interfere in our elections.
Don’t tell me you believe the Steele dossier 🙄

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@wajoma said
Children will be hospitalized by the fakecine. That is not misinformation.

You may be decapitated by your seat belt. That is not misinformation.

Perhaps you should offer a retraction for that example in the OP, show some integrity, admit to your own misinformation and one eyed views
Ok let's back it up.

Both are deliberate misinformation because they are meant to make you believe something that is not true. In the first case, "children will be hospitalized" is a partial truth but still misinformation because the statement is intentionally designed to make you believe vaccines are harmful. It ignores other facts from hundreds of scientists and more than a dozen public-health organizations and agencies strongly encouraging all eligible people 12 and older to get vaccinated, because the benefits “far outweigh any harm.”

Seatbelt decapitation is a similar type of misinformation. Anti public health folk used it in the 1960's protests against seatbelt mandates (i did my own research!!) It is designed to make you think seatbelts are bad. Decapitation is extremely rare.

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@wildgrass said
There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind...

Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working" and children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. Metal Brain hears it and believes it whole cloth, even though I could find hundreds of research artic ...[text shortened]... ar it, agree with it, and never change their minds.

What's the solution here? Facts don't matter.
“ There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind... ”

exactly what the state run lib media does…and you libs blissfully follow. That is the reason you cant win debates when the facts are presented.

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