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  1. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    27 Aug '10 14:52
    So, how much does it cost to run the country that tops the 2010 Failed States Index?

    "According to the Annual Financial Report released by the office of the Prime Minister today, Somalia's budget in the fiscal year 2009 was just over $11 million."

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/08/26/1000_to_be_central_banker_of_somalia

    With so small a budget, it's relatively easy to get it all down on a couple of bits of paper:

    http://mxcdn.horseedmedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/TFG-ANNUAL-FINANCIAL-REPORT-2009-2.pdf

    That said, the 'government' only actually and effectively controls a couple of square miles around Mogadishu...
  2. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    27 Aug '10 15:04
    Originally posted by DrKF
    So, how much does it cost to run the country that tops the 2010 Failed States Index?

    "According to the Annual Financial Report released by the office of the Prime Minister today, Somalia's budget in the fiscal year 2009 was just over $11 million."

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/08/26/1000_to_be_central_banker_of_somalia

    With so small a budget ...[text shortened]... nment' only actually and effectively controls a couple of square miles around Mogadishu...
    Whodey's DreamLand; he's always saying how we need a "limited government" and whining about "statists". Looks like those wise Somalis fully endorse his concepts.
  3. 27 Aug '10 16:38
    what happens to jaywalkers who mouth off to cops in Somalia?
  4. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    27 Aug '10 16:49 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    what happens to jaywalkers who mouth off to cops in Somalia?
    24 hours of community service and a dismissal of charges? http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012723548_jaywalking26m.html
  5. 27 Aug '10 16:51
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    what happens to jaywalkers who mouth off to cops in Somalia?
    this is kind of like asking what happens if you light a candle inside a burning building.
  6. 27 Aug '10 16:52 / 1 edit
    edit: @no1marauder

    you must be in your dotage ... i said SOMALIA not SEATTLE.
  7. 27 Aug '10 17:02
    Originally posted by DrKF
    So, how much does it cost to run the country that tops the 2010 Failed States Index?

    "According to the Annual Financial Report released by the office of the Prime Minister today, Somalia's budget in the fiscal year 2009 was just over $11 million."

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/08/26/1000_to_be_central_banker_of_somalia

    With so small a budget ...[text shortened]... nment' only actually and effectively controls a couple of square miles around Mogadishu...
    Would love to see the world "recognize" Somaliland to the north, consisting of the former British Somaliland.

    There is a much more stable and effective government there. The area is safer than much of the rest of Africa. And the people don't want a part of the Mogadishu government.

    No one wants to redraw their maps, but this is cruel to insist a peaceful people join in with an externally imposed "government" run by the same clan that tried genocide against them 20 years earlier.
  8. 27 Aug '10 17:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Whodey's DreamLand; he's always saying how we need a "limited government" and whining about "statists". Looks like those wise Somalis fully endorse his concepts.
    Don't you mean the Founding Fathers Dreamland? I thought they envisioned limited government. I know its painful to acknowledge that fact.

    Of course, its always good to hear from you marauder, even if it is a continuous smearing campaign.
  9. 27 Aug '10 17:52
    Originally posted by techsouth
    Would love to see the world "recognize" Somaliland to the north, consisting of the former British Somaliland.

    There is a much more stable and effective government there. The area is safer than much of the rest of Africa. And the people don't want a part of the Mogadishu government.

    No one wants to redraw their maps, but this is cruel to insist a pe ...[text shortened]... mposed "government" run by the same clan that tried genocide against them 20 years earlier.
    are they trying to gain recognition?

    maybe Kofi Annan could help, if he were so inclined.
  10. 27 Aug '10 18:51
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    are they trying to gain recognition?

    maybe Kofi Annan could help, if he were so inclined.
    They are trying to gain recognition, but I doubt Kofi Annan would be inclined to help.

    In the midst of Somali anarchy, some 10 years before the Transitional "government" of "Somalia" is imposed with the help of the UN, Somaliland declared independence and formed a government. Now, when you read about them in most media outlets they are referred to as a "breakaway" movement.

    The UN fully backs the government they imposed and most of the world will go along. Few countries will even recognized a passport from Somaliland.

    No African country will recognize any movement that would redraw borders because then they'd have to deal with movements within their own countries that seek independence. The people of Somaliland are left as a sacrifice on the alter of maintaining the status quot.
  11. 27 Aug '10 19:12
    Originally posted by whodey
    Don't you mean the Founding Fathers Dreamland? I thought they envisioned limited government. I know its painful to acknowledge that fact.

    Of course, its always good to hear from you marauder, even if it is a continuous smearing campaign.
    so you're agreeing that Somalia is what the Founding Fathers had in mind?