https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/09/the-earths-ozone-layer-is-slowly-recovering-un-report-finds-.html#:~:text=Scientist
The Earth’s ozone layer is slowly recovering, UN report finds
The Earth’s protective ozone layer is on track to recover within four decades in a gradual process that’s expected to close a major ozone hole over Antarctica, a United Nations-backed panel of experts announced on Monday.
The findings of the scientific assessment follow the landmark Montreal Protocol in 1987, which banned the production and consumption of chemicals that eat away at the planet’s ozone layer.
@vivify saidwhy would there be a hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/09/the-earths-ozone-layer-is-slowly-recovering-un-report-finds-.html#:~:text=ScientistThe Earth’s ozone layer is slowly recovering, UN report finds
The Earth’s protective ozone layer is on track to recover within four decades in a gradual process that’s expected to close a major ozone hole over Antarctica, a United Nations-back ...[text shortened]... anned the production and consumption of chemicals that eat away at the planet’s ozone layer.
@shavixmir said"John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on quantum mechanics, has decided to sign the World Climate Declaration of Clintel with its central message “there is no climate emergency”. Clauser is the second Nobel Laureate to sign the declaration, Dr. Ivar Giaever was the first. The number of scientists and experts signing the World Climate Declaration is growing rapidly and now approaching 1600 people.
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It's not only the clotshot narrative that's collapsing. Some good climate change news.
@wajoma saidWhy does one guy who's not a climate scientist matter more to you than the many thousands of people who are?
"John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on quantum mechanics, has decided to sign the World Climate Declaration of Clintel with its central message “there is no climate emergency”. Clauser is the second Nobel Laureate to sign the declaration, Dr. Ivar Giaever was the first. The number of scientists and experts signing the World Climate Decl ...[text shortened]... ople.
It's not only the clotshot narrative that's collapsing. Some good climate change news.
@vivify saidYes I agree. There are many scientists blowing the whistle on the carbon emissions scam as related to climate change. There are reasons for reducing carbon emissions, not that they themselves are harmful but the other emissions that go along with combustion of hydrocarbons that do harm to the environment and humanity.
Because governments listened to scientists and banned harmful products, the earth has started to recover.
This is why we should heed scientists regarding carbon emissions.
@mott-the-hoople saidCFCs, moron.
why would there be a hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica
Do some reading, once in a while.
@wajoma saidhttps://www.verificat.cat/en/who-is-behind-the-viral-document-stating-that-there-is-no-climate-emergency/
"John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on quantum mechanics, has decided to sign the World Climate Declaration of Clintel with its central message “there is no climate emergency”. Clauser is the second Nobel Laureate to sign the declaration, Dr. Ivar Giaever was the first. The number of scientists and experts signing the World Climate Decl ...[text shortened]... ople.
It's not only the clotshot narrative that's collapsing. Some good climate change news.
Read it and weep, dumbass.
@mott-the-hoople saidSome clown asked that in the Science Forum Thread 198495.
why would there be a hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica
For your convinience my reply:
It is discussed in Science since the 70's. What exactly would you liike to discuss here?
If you want to read up: doi:10.1038/249810a0 is a publication from 1974. You can track the citations of that paper to follow the discussion from the very beginnning.
You can start also here doi:10.5194/acp-18-1379-2018 (A publication from 2018 and follow the referenced papers back)
Yes I used the expression "clown" since it is not difficult for a 10 year old to get understandable facts without asking on a chess site.
@wajoma said* shav has commented Moot's post on ozone layer.
"John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on quantum mechanics, has decided to sign the World Climate Declaration of Clintel with its central message “there is no climate emergency”. Clauser is the second Nobel Laureate to sign the declaration, Dr. Ivar Giaever was the first. The number of scientists and experts signing the World Climate Decl ...[text shortened]... ople.
It's not only the clotshot narrative that's collapsing. Some good climate change news.
* winning a Nobel hardly qualifies to be an expert on all things
* https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ is the declaration in question. In fact there is no quote on the whole page to support the claims (some of which are just straw-men arguments (e.g. nobody ever claimed that there should be no co2 in the atmosphere)).
The main claim is that the moels are not correct. Something hat is also not really in question. However I still claim (and you won't accept the measurements) that they are qualitatively correct and predict the trend correctly.
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@ponderable saidThis is what is known as a 'strawman', it's odd that you point out other 'strawmen' while building your own strawmen. There's a word for that.
* winning a Nobel hardly qualifies to be an expert on all things
@wajoma saidOk, I admit that could be seen as one point for you.
This is what is known as a 'strawman', it's odd that you point out other 'strawmen' while building your own strawmen. There's a word for that.
Let me rephrase:
How many Nobel Prize winners are convinced that climate change is happening and how many are convinced that it doesn't?
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@ponderable saidNow we see what we're dealing with. The message of the declaration is that there is "no emergency", I'm going to have to come right out and say it, your misrepresentation here, in your post, is blatantly dishonest, a level of dishonesty we've come to expect from suziman, very disappointing.
Ok, I admit that could be seen as one point for you.
Let me rephrase:
How many Nobel Prize winners are convinced that climate change is happening and how many are convinced that it doesn't?
"..,World Climate Declaration of Clintel with its central message “there is no climate emergency”."
You need more 'rephrasing' (a very polite way of saying; less dishonesty)
The news is that John F Clauser is the second Nobel prize winning physicist to sign the declaration. Unfortunately for climate alarmists there is no Nobel prize for climate alarmism and physics is the most relevant category carrying more gravitas than for eg drone murderer obummas peace prize. That's not to say there aren't more that also believe there is no emergency, and unless they sign a declaration that they believe we are specifically in a state of emergency such a number is conjecture.
Given they are two Nobel prize winners in the most relevant Nobel category, given how many Nobel prize winning physicists are dead, how many they hand out (once a year only), and given climate alarmism is a relatively recent phenomenon that's actually a fairly high percentage.
But while we're on this 'emergency' topic, is that your position? That the world is in a state of emergency? Because there's plenty to be said about the constantly moving 'point of no return' deadline we keep hearing about.
@wajoma saidI hate to have to MetalBrain your ass, but you obviously didn't read my link.
Now we see what we're dealing with. The message of the declaration is that there is "no emergency", I'm going to have to come right out and say it, your misrepresentation here, in your post, is blatantly dishonest, a level of dishonesty we've come to expect from suziman, very disappointing.
"..,[i]World Climate Declaration of Clintel with its central message “there ...[text shortened]... s plenty to be said about the constantly moving 'point of no return' deadline we keep hearing about.
https://www.verificat.cat/en/who-is-behind-the-viral-document-stating-that-there-is-no-climate-emergency/
Your idiot declaration isn't the 'last word' you think it is.