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Originally posted by wedgehead2
The amount of "sharing" is slightly questionable- we give information, you take it.
That's sharing isn't it? lol!

Actually, the U.S. and U.K. share a lot of tech. The Joint Strike Fighter for example. Heck, BAE has a building right in Arlington. (That's where a lot of defense contractors are, it's as close to D.C. as you can get without being in D.C.)

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Last night, on the BBC World news, there was a segment on the "son of star wars" program.

This program, for those who don't know, is a plan to have a weapons system to protect the US against ballistic missile attack, including nuclear.

If this project comes to fruition, the old argument of Mutually Assured Destrucion (MAD) would no longer apply ...[text shortened]... these conditions, will the US be less reticent to use the nuclear option on other countries?
MAD only reffered to the US and USSR, because we are the only ones who would becapable of MAD. I mean I believe that the US could blow up every square inch of the earth like nine times and USSR could blow it up 12 or the reverse. So we've pretty much been living without MAD for a long time.

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Originally posted by Hank Rearden
MAD only reffered to the US and USSR, because we are the only ones who would becapable of MAD. I mean I believe that the US could blow up every square inch of the earth like nine times and USSR could blow it up 12 or the reverse. So we've pretty much been living without MAD for a long time.
Anyone putting a nuke into a major city in the US (or anywhere else) would pretty much qualify for MAD I guess. They don't need to kill everyone for it to be MAD, just to make a few large sized craters.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Anyone putting a nuke into a major city in the US (or anywhere else) would pretty much qualify for MAD I guess. They don't need to kill everyone for it to be MAD, just to make a few large sized craters.
MAD ment Mutual Assured Destruction, which ment if you set a nuke off on US soil we would retaliate by sending everything nuclear we had and destroy every square inch of your country and your allies

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Originally posted by Hank Rearden
MAD ment Mutual Assured Destruction, which ment if you set a nuke off on US soil we would retaliate by sending everything nuclear we had and destroy every square inch of your country and your allies
I know what MAD stands for. In my opinion, however, if the US were to send a nuke to N. Korea, and they sent one back to L.A. or San Francisco that would count as MAD. No? Maybe we need a new acronym.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Particle beams have one big disadvantage from a weapons pov:
They won't work in atmosphere and they are deflected by magnetic fields. So if you have a particle beam weapon in orbit, the earth's magnetic field would deflect the aiming of the beam which can be corrected for but it would only work in outer space. It would peter out pretty quickly as it hit th would give active electronics a relatively long time to prepare electronic shields and such.
Cyclotron particle accelerators, linear particle accelerators, and synchroton particle acclerators can accelerate positively charged hydrogen ions until their velocity approaches the speed of light, and each individual ion has a kinetic energy of from 100 MeV to 1000 MeV or more. Then the resulting high energy protons can capture electrons from electron emitter electrodes, and be thus electrically neutralized. This creates an electrically neutral beam of high energy hydrogen atoms, that can proceed straight line at near the velocity of light to zap its target and thus damage it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_beam_weapon


The atmosphere still seems to be a problem though.

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Originally posted by Redmike
When I was a student in the early 1980s, a group of us went to visit RAF Fylingdales in Yorkshire - a Ballistic Missile Early Warning Station.

This is where, as I understand it, one element of the proposed US defence system would be sited.

It was a fascinating place to visit - strange golf-ball structures on the Yorkshire moors (I think these are gone ...[text shortened]... ssiles. If they don't know whether you've stopped, you're getting everything they have left.
did prices shoot up?

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
I know what MAD stands for. In my opinion, however, if the US were to send a nuke to N. Korea, and they sent one back to L.A. or San Francisco that would count as MAD. No? Maybe we need a new acronym.
i don't think one city counts as destruction.

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
The amount of "sharing" is slightly questionable- we give information, you take it.
how many major US weapons systems in the UK and vice versa?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
i don't think one city counts as destruction.
This is quotable, zeeblebot!

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
The amount of "sharing" is slightly questionable- we give information, you take it.
You're from Micronesia according to your profile. Which side are you representing here? UK?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You're from Micronesia according to your profile. Which side are you representing here?
His left side is his best, I think.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
This is quotable, zeeblebot!
well, it's like losing a pinky or something. 🙂

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
His left side is his best, I think.
everything left is best. 😛

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You're from Micronesia according to your profile. Which side are you representing here? UK?
yes. I keep moving around the country in order to get suprised comments from opponents when I move from one side of the world to the other.