25 Feb 06
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the son-rise program is considered by many to be the nearest thing there is to a cure for autism. in essense, i beleive, it gets the child to focus on people as opposed to on the detail of *things*. however, this involves locking them in a room alone with nothing and noone for hours on end. so, is this abuse? i mean, the child is being forced into a bare room with nothing to do, often againt their will, and yet this is for their own good. the results are often remarkable.
opinions, anyone?
i found this on it also, http://rsaffran.tripod.com/sonrise.html
26 Feb 06
Originally posted by geniusAnd they talk about ME having long posts! Here is another link
the son-rise program is considered by many to be the nearest thing there is to a cure for autism. in essense, i beleive, it gets the child to focus on people as opposed to on the detail of *things*. however, this involves locking them in a room alone with nothing and noone for hours on end. so, is this abuse? i mean, the child is being forced into a bare room ...[text shortened]... rkable.
opinions, anyone?
i found this on it also, http://rsaffran.tripod.com/sonrise.html
dealing with autism, about underestimating the intelligence of
autistic children:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4740178.stm
26 Feb 06
Originally posted by geniusI hear this claim a lot more about intense ABA (Applied Behaviour Analysis) programs than about the Son-Rise program, which I actually don't hear very much about at all. So I doubt it has a very high number of followers, although I don't have numbers.
the son-rise program is considered by many to be the nearest thing there is to a cure for autism.
however, this involves locking them in a room alone with nothing and noone for hours on end.
Where did you get this from? Could that be a misunderstanding? I have read Kaufman's book "Son Rise" (which is about their own son and how they "cured" him), there has been some discussion (although not very much) about the program on an autism mailing list I am on, and I have read the article you linked to (very interesting reading), and nothing I have read said something about locking children in a room alone. In fact, from all I have read it seems to be one of the main principles of the program not to leave the children alone. But locking them up against their will together with another person who tries to make contact all the time doesn't necessarily make it less abusive. I completely agree with the author of the article you linked to when he/she says:
"The constant claims about the gentle and "accepting" nature of Options obscure the fact that for many children, being trapped in a room all day with a constant succession of people trying to interact socially and "bond" with them, and, for example, seize every opportunity to make eye contact, may in fact be highly aversive and stressful. It's supposed to be gentle but actually, looked at from an autistic point of view, seems very intrusive. All children, especially autistic children, need respect for their space and a chance to have solitude when they want it, not to be "working" all the time."
I certainly wouldn't recommend that program to anyone. I can't see that it offers anything positive you couldn't get elsewhere, and there are quite a few things about it I have problems with, most importantly the negative view of autism (even though they try to sell it as a positive view), not to speak of the prices and marketing strategies.
27 Feb 06
Originally posted by Nordlysfrom what i understood of it, you are supposed to leave the child alone in the room to begin with, and eventually things are added (e.g. people 😛)
I hear this claim a lot more about intense ABA (Applied Behaviour Analysis) programs than about the Son-Rise program, which I actually don't hear very much about at all. So I doubt it has a very high number of followers, although I don't have numbers.
[b]however, this involves locking them in a room alone with nothing and noone for hours on end.
Wh ...[text shortened]... it as a positive view), not to speak of the prices and marketing strategies.[/b]
27 Feb 06
Originally posted by geniusI can't find anything which supports this, and it still doesn't seem to be quite in line with what I have heard about the program. Do you have any link?
from what i understood of it, you are supposed to leave the child alone in the room to begin with, and eventually things are added (e.g. people 😛)
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by Nordlyssounds like generic elementary school.
... "The constant claims about the gentle and "accepting" nature of Options obscure the fact that for many children, being trapped in a room all day with a constant succession of people trying to interact socially and "bond" with them, and, for example, seize every opportunity to make eye contact, may in fact be highly aversive and stressful. It's supposed t ...[text shortened]... to sell it as a positive view), not to speak of the prices and marketing strategies.