Originally posted by YIAMSOMEBODYWhat I'm wondering is where the child learned those words to begin with. Kids are influenced by how the other people they're most (parents usually) act and speak.
With all due respect, I don't agree with your last paragraph. I only say that because children are a lot smarter than their parents give them credit for.
Words are OKAY, in some instances, but if this child is CONSTANTLY doing things to test the parent, what then? Timeout? Ground them?
Sorry, but these things don't work...ALL THE TIME. I ...[text shortened]... ook off table*
How would you handle this? TALKING? FROWNS?
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But anyways, I think spanking should be used as the very last resort. There are plenty of other ways of taking control of a situation (grounding, putting in time out, and simply talking about why what they did was wrong and why they shouldn't do it again). It seems to me when you hit a child, you're not exactly acting like an adult. Adults are supposed to know how to handle their anger. However, I do agree that spanking can be used in some cases. Although the parent should be careful, so they don't hurt the child. I feel that the parent should listen to the childs point of view, and take into consideration why they're upset and how they can solve the problem (other than spanking).
I think one problem with spanking is that adults don't realize their own strength. If a full grown man, is hitting a three year old, and trying to make it hurt, he could really hurt the kid. Some parents need to realize that there's a difference between spanking your child and beating them as punishment.
Someone in another thread said that if you didn't discipline your child-which he later explained meant hitting-they would grow up to become murderers and rapists. When you look at it, more criminals have had an abusive childhood rather than a pampered one (I'm not saying all criminals were beaten as children, I'm saying that more criminals were abused than coddled).
There has to be a medium. Positive and Negitive reinforcement used together works.
My Dad would give us a "spanking" rarley. . . but we knew it was out there! Made us listen when he yelled.
If we said, " I'll call Social Services!" He'd respond, "You gotta make it to the phone first"
Years later, I love, respect, and have no fear of the man he is.
But anyways, I think spanking should be used as the very last resort. There are plenty of other ways of taking control of a situation (grounding, putting in time out, and simply talking about why what they did was wrong and why they shouldn't do it again). It seems to me when you hit a child, you're not exactly acting like an adult. Adults are supposed to know how to handle their anger. However, ...[text shortened]... ll criminals were beaten as children, I'm saying that more criminals were abused than coddled).[/b]In SOME cases, spanking should be a last resort, but the parent shouldn't rule it out totally. I only say that because these kids are something else.
All that talking crap....how far does it REALLY go with the child. If every time the child does something and mom and dad come in yelling 20 feet away...what is that really doing? Exactly...nothing. \
Put some hot leather on that a** and let that child know...."I MEAN BUSINESS". After you've served them, sit them down, TALK it out with them and explain to them why you did what you did.
I agree, a full grown man shouldn't go all out on a 3 year old, but a couple of taps doesn't hurt either. Like I said, when I have children, I'm going to do them like my mother did my brother and I.
A. Sit us down, explain to us what we did wrong and why we shouldn't do it again.
B. Take us to the back and get the belt out.
C. Open a can of WHOOP A** on us, and after that, give us that second talk.
It's not that hard.....
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Originally posted by YIAMSOMEBODYI'm not a parent. I think that both physical punishment and refusing to use it can work in raising a healthy child probably.
I've noticed that a lot of parents don't spank their children. Partly because the child may use the "I'm going to call so and so on you" line, and partly because they MAY be scared of the child. In my opinion, I feel that a good old fashioned a** whoopin' will suffice. Now there's a difference between beating the dog sh** out of someone and wh ...[text shortened]... my just opinion.
So what does RHP think? For...or against?
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungThis is true, in some cases, but what about those select few times the child wants to test you? And you've given them chance after chance to straighten up? Do you bring out the leather...or give them "time out"?
I'm not a parent. I think that both physical punishment and refusing to use it can work in raising a healthy child probably.
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Originally posted by YIAMSOMEBODYI have no experience. I can't really debate this topic in any detail really.
This is true, in some cases, but what about those select few times the child wants to test you? And you've given them chance after chance to straighten up? Do you bring out the leather...or give them "time out"?
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Originally posted by YIAMSOMEBODYI'm sure I'm not alone on this opinion....but you should stop referring to yourself as the great one....
I've noticed that a lot of parents don't spank their children. Partly because the child may use the "I'm going to call so and so on you" line, and partly because they MAY be scared of the child. In my opinion, I feel that a good old fashioned a** whoopin' will suffice. Now there's a difference between beating the dog sh** out of someone and wh ...[text shortened]... my just opinion.
So what does RHP think? For...or against?
The Great One has spoken.
Timeouts do no good. All timeouts are good for is teaching the child that punching little Billy in the face only gets 5 minutes in the corner. When the kid gets into junior high and high school, and punches Chuck in the face, Chuck's gonna kick his ass, not put him in the corner.
Originally posted by YIAMSOMEBODYDoesn't bother me much. I just think it's a lie or a delusion. You're not great. Because people shouldn't lie or delude themselves, you shouldn't use that title.
Now YOU'RE on my scrotum as well. Does it bother you cretins THAT much? *shaking head* Wow....
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I have no interest in your scrotum. Please keep your fantasies to yourself.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungA lie or delusion? *shaking head*
Doesn't bother me much. I just think it's a lie or a delusion. You're not great. Because people shouldn't lie or delude themselves, you shouldn't use that title.
I have no interest in your scrotum. Please keep your fantasies to yourself.
If it didn't bother you, you wouldn't have taken the time out to speak on it. That's point number one. Point two is, you're riding my jock because you didn't and can't use the name like me.
I am great...get it right. I use it the moniker because it applies to everything I do. *taking balls back* I BELIEVE THESE ARE MINE!
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