Go back
St. Patrick's Day Parade canceled by Mayor

St. Patrick's Day Parade canceled by Mayor

Debates

Vote Up
Vote Down

The parade in New York was canceled because it's not allowing gay pride flags there. First off it's about green maybe they can hold green flags. They have their day they don't need to have another one. And plus they stole the meaning of the rainbow they should change their symbol because a rainbow stands for never flooding the world again not being gay. This is so the other kind of gay!


Originally posted by RBHILL
The parade in New York was canceled because it's not allowing gay pride flags there. First off it's about green maybe they can hold green flags. They have their day they don't need to have another one. And plus they stole the meaning of the rainbow they should change their symbol because a rainbow stands for never flooding the world again not being gay. This is so the other kind of gay!
I know personally people who went to New York because they wanted to live openly as gay people without fear or oppressive attitudes. I see no reason why they are less Irish. If I was one of them I would probably be more proud to carry a gay pride flag than an Irish one - there is less to be ashamed of that way - but I would not accept being excluded from any parade that claimed to represent the Irish people as distinct from a self appointed mediocracy that wants to control things.

The fairy story to which you refer regarding rainbows and floods would be one of many propagated by an Irish priesthood and orders like the Christian Brothers who strangled Irish education and society with their bigotry while molesting boys (and girls) on an industrial scale.

Just what are the Irish celebrating anyway? Is it the mindless brutality of the IRA, long funded from the USA, subject of so many rousing songs best accompanied with a stout dddrink? After the Warrington bombing, I recall having to walk out of a folk club in Harlech rather than continue listening to songs celebrating the good old IRA.

Is it the criminal thievery that passes for an Irish financial system - a haven for those evading tax and regulation in better run countries?

I have no patience for the false national identity promoted in such events, which are in any case increasingly commercial nonsense with no cultural validity. I see no grounds for the organizers of this parade to export their bigotry from a country that is slowly (I hope) throwing it aside.

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by RBHILL
The parade in New York was canceled because it's not allowing gay pride flags there. First off it's about green maybe they can hold green flags. They have their day they don't need to have another one. And plus they stole the meaning of the rainbow they should change their symbol because a rainbow stands for never flooding the world again not being gay. This is so the other kind of gay!
Are you lying or did you just not bother taking 2 minutes to verify your information?

The parade in New York has not been cancelled. Look at their official website:

http://nycstpatricksparade.org/

There's NO indication that it has been cancelled.

The mayor of Boston and I think the mayor of New York have stated that they won't be in the parade because of the refusal to allow gay people to participate, but they have not cancelled the parades.

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by PsychoPawn
Are you lying or did you just not bother taking 2 minutes to verify your information?
When you talk about rainbows as magic gifts from the Sky God
you are not going to be bothered by facts ruining a good story!

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by RBHILL
The parade in New York was canceled because it's not allowing gay pride flags there. First off it's about green maybe they can hold green flags. They have their day they don't need to have another one. And plus they stole the meaning of the rainbow they should change their symbol because a rainbow stands for never flooding the world again not being gay. This is so the other kind of gay!
I'm in New York now. The parade is not cancelled.


Anti-gay Catholic League president Bill Donohue was left speechless this week when his provocative request to join New York's Gay Pride Parade in June was accepted by the parade organizers.

Donohue announced on Wednesday that he wanted to march in the 2014 New York City Pride Parade under a banner that would read: 'Straight is great.'

As an added provocation he told conservative talk show host Steve Malzberg he would also bring along 'a big wedding cake' if the organizers allowed him to march.

Clearly imagining he'd receive the same curt dismissal delivered to Irish gay groups by the Saint Patrick's Day committee, Donohue's stunt ran aground on Thursday when he found his application to march handily accepted.

It should be noted that Irish gay groups who want to march in the St. Patrick's Day Parade have never applied to march under a banner that says: 'Gay Is Great.' Instead they simply want to celebrate their Irish heritage and their gay pride under a banner that would read: 'Irish, Gay and Proud.'

Suddenly faced with an unwelcome and unexpected contrast between the inclusive Pride Parade and the exclusive St. Patrick's Day Parade, Donohue was faced with the reality he would have to march.

But since that was apparently never his intention he backtracked on Friday, looking to save some face on the way to the exit.

It didn't take long for him to find an out. Yesterday, Donohue announced that the Pride committee's request that his organization send one representative to a safety training session before the parade amounted to what he called a 'gay training session.'

Donohue neglected to explain what exactly he meant by a 'gay training session' and those who know the Pride parade openly laughed at his spin. The mandatory training session simply discusses the logistics of the parade, informs the participants where and when to line up, and alerts them to important safety procedures - just like every other New York City parade.

Donohue's face saving exercise was especially craven critics say, given that his acceptance to Pride had torpedoed any contrast he had hoped to make with the march on Fifth Avenue.

So lets make the contrast clear for him: this was an exercise in barely concealed contempt. Donohue apparently thought his presence would be so odious that the Pride committee would have no option but to decline his application.

Instead the Pride committee showed the kind of leadership and smarts that the St. Pat's Parade and Archbishop Dolan have failed to.

Irish American GLAAD President Kate Ellis wrote on Thursday: ‘As a fellow Irish New Yorker, I'm hoping Bill will march with me at NYC Pride. I look forward to the day when I can march openly with Bill in the NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade, and not be turned away because of who I am.’

From Donohue and from the St. Pat's parade committee the rest is silence.



Read more: http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/cahirodoherty/Donohue-applies-to-march-in-Gay-Pride-parade-is-accepted-then-withdraws.html#ixzz2wph2C8DJ
Follow us: @IrishCentral on Twitter | IrishCentral on Facebook

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by finnegan
Anti-gay Catholic League president Bill Donohue was left speechless this week when his provocative request to join New York's Gay Pride Parade in June was accepted by the parade organizers.

Donohue announced on Wednesday that he wanted to march in the 2014 New York City Pride Parade under a banner that would read: 'Straight is great.'

As an add ...[text shortened]... raws.html#ixzz2wph2C8DJ
Follow us: @IrishCentral on Twitter | IrishCentral on Facebook
That's funny to walk around all those naked gay people I hope he doesn't get any STDs.

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by RBHILL
That's funny to walk around all those naked gay people I hope he doesn't get any STDs.
Philippians 1:21-23
New International Version (NIV)
21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;

It would be far better for you to just depart.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by finnegan
Philippians 1:21-23
New International Version (NIV)
21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;

It would be far better for you to just depart.
Are you the guy of your relationship?

Someday you'll have to depart too and I really pray that you'll get saved Someday.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by RBHILL
Are you the guy of your relationship?

Someday you'll have to depart too and I really pray that you'll get saved Someday.
The combination of sanctimonious religiosity with such vulgar hate speech in one post sort of sums up much of what I dislike. It requires impressive hypocrisy and self delusion.


Originally posted by finnegan
The combination of sanctimonious religiosity with such vulgar hate speech in one post sort of sums up much of what I dislike. It requires impressive hypocrisy and self delusion.
There was more vulgar hate speech in your reply.

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by finnegan
The combination of sanctimonious religiosity with such vulgar hate speech in one post sort of sums up much of what I dislike. It requires impressive hypocrisy and self delusion.
It's not hate speech, lesbians and gays have it wrong they're just so insensitive.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by normbenign
There was more vulgar hate speech in your reply.
Yes and his 8th post of this thread was hate speech but he doesn't realize it so he comes back and types about me saying I did hate speech which he did first, so I did it back but not really.


Originally posted by RBHILL
Yes and his 8th post of this thread was hate speech but he doesn't realize it so he comes back and types about me saying I did hate speech which he did first, so I did it back but not really.
That's a popular tactic to silence questioning and arguments against their agenda. Accuse homophobia, or hate speech, and make the accusation as hateful as possible.

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by normbenign
That's a popular tactic to silence questioning and arguments against their agenda. Accuse homophobia, or hate speech, and make the accusation as hateful as possible.
Can't wait to see how they respond to your post or not at all. True homophobia is the fear of man not gays. Homo is man!