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Originally posted by sasquatch672How many times are you going to "spam" with the lie that I called American troops "baby killers"??
I don't post for Stang's removal with anything approaching the frequency of Stang's spamming. Come on. "Plenty of other posters..." No they don't. No one approaches Stang. And your assertion that my beef with Stang is ideological is what is absurd. Shavixmir stated recently in one thread that he laughed and jumped up and down when the second plane itor to that - a big one. My beef with him isn't his ideology - it's his spamming.
You're full of it. Grow up; STANG's got just as much right posting in these forums as you do. So what if his posting style is annoying?? Who the hell are you to campaign for people's bans for what they write in the forums?? You should work for Bush you pushy Neo-Nazi.
Parroting the word "spamming" over and over and over again to justify trying to get someone banned you've taken a personal dislike to is dishonest. And don't bother to lie and claim it's nothing personal; it drips from your every post directed at the man. One thing I'll say; STANG might be single-minded but he doesn't get involved in personal vendettas against other people here; he takes more personal crap from other posters than anybody here. Maybe you could learn something from his example; weren't you threatening one time to report me to the Secret Service for something I wrote here?? And now you're talking about someone being an "inhibitor" to debate?????? Bloody hypocrite.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemWhy is it a big deal to you?? Don't read the threads and don't go to the links. Problem solved.
I didn't go to any of the links that stang gave.
The issue isn't links; it's spam. I brought up links because they are stang's spam of choice. Anytime a poster makes ~20 duplicate posts in the span of a few minutes, he's spamming. That's what I want to see stopped. There is no need to flood 10+ threads to get your point across!
Sasquatch isn't a ...[text shortened]... wanting to see stang banned. Several others have posted indicating their support for it.
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Originally posted by no1marauderNobody is trying to "silence" him. It's not a vast anti-STANG conspiracy.
Bully for you, Joe McCarthy. Anybody else you'd like to silence so we can have an "uninhibited" Debate forum??
Many people he irritates will actually share his views (to a greater or lesser degree).
The content of his posts is irrelevant. It is their repetitive and misleading nature. He has been warned about this and banned for it, and he will be banned again.
It is ignorance, idiocy or the need to play the victim which leads him to continue to do the same thing over and over again. None of these are appealing characteristics.
As you said with the swearing debate, it is ultimately up to Russ to set the rules, and we abide by them or do not. Is it so hard for Stang to find new ways of making his points, to refrain from continually reposting the same thing, or to engage in genuine debate?
His current strategy is utterly counter-productive and it is he who needs to grow up.
Originally posted by dottewell"it is ultimately up to Russ to set the rules, and we abide by them or do not."
Nobody is trying to "silence" him. It's not a vast anti-STANG conspiracy.
Many people he irritates will actually share his views (to a greater or lesser degree).
The content of his posts is irrelevant. It is their repetitive and misleading nature. He has been warned about this and banned for it, and he will be banned again.
It is ignorance, idiocy ...[text shortened]... ate?
His current strategy is utterly counter-productive and it is he who needs to grow up.
If that is so, this entire crusade of sasquatch's is a waste of time, isn't it? Isn't it, in fact, "spamming" as it really shouldn't be in the Debates forum at all - perhaps "Site Ideas" if anywhere. Most of the people here hardly ever engage in "genuine debate", so STANG is hardly unique in that category. It is not your's or sasquatch's prerogative to decide what is acceptable posting in the Debates forum, so IMO you and him and others should STFU about attempting to get a fellow chess player banned from a stupid internet forum; it's not killing you for STANG to "spam" so why do you and the other Neo-Nazis care sooooooooooooooooooo much?
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Originally posted by no1marauderHe is deliberately flouting the rules (which have already seen him banned) because of a deep-seated desire to play the martyr. He does not discuss issues, he simply posts and reposts the same thing.
"it is ultimately up to Russ to set the rules, and we abide by them or do not."
If that is so, this entire crusade of sasquatch's is a waste of time, isn't it? Isn't it, in fact, "spamming" as it really shouldn't be in the Debates forum at all - perhaps "Site Ideas" if anywhere. Most of the people here hardly ever engage in "genuine debate", so to "spam" so why do you and the other Neo-Nazis care sooooooooooooooooooo much?
It is intellectually dishonest and insulting to the rest of us.
I don't particularly care. It won't change my life. But if he can't act with a bit of respect for us and the forums, I would rather he were banned than not.
Now come on, that hardly makes me a neo-Nazi now, does it?
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Originally posted by dottewellYes, it does. You want to suppress his speech because the way he says things annoys you even though it does no particular harm. You want him banned for your own selfish reasons. That makes you a Neo-Nazi in my book and a pathetic human being as well. Personally I think this whole charade is to deflect the Debates forum from actual debate on an important subject (i.e. American foreign policy) to blathering about a trivial one (i.e. the "etiquette" on this forum).
He is deliberately flouting the rules (which have already seen him banned) because of a deep-seated desire to play the martyr. He does not discuss issues, he simply posts and reposts the same thing.
It is intellectually dishonest and insulting to the rest of us.
I don't particularly care. It won't change my life. But if he can't act with a bit of res ...[text shortened]... rather he were banned than not.
Now come on, that hardly makes me a neo-Nazi now, does it?
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Originally posted by no1marauderNothing selfish about it. His posts are of no value to anyone. Furthermore, if everyone did acted like him, the forums would be devalued.
Yes, it does. You want to suppress his speech because the way he says things annoys you even though it does no particular harm. You want him banned for your own selfish reasons. That makes you a Neo-Nazi in my book and a pathetic human being as well.
That's one reason spamming is banned.
Some rules are worth breaking. This one isn't.
He can't see that, and he refuses to listen to reason. Does he hold these forums, and our intelligence, in such contempt?
Are you campaigning for the right of people to hijack forums with repetitive posts? Are you saying the rules of the site are wrong?
I do not wish to inhibit his right to free speech. I want him to appreciate his responsibility to use that right in a grown-up manner.
He is the equivalent of a braying heckler at a speech by a right-wing politician. Never mind that the politician has said he will answer any questions. The heckler just goes on shouting slogans. Eject him and let the adults talk about the issues.
If that makes me a neo-Nazi in your book, perhaps you need a new book.
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Originally posted by no1marauderWhy is it a big deal? Because I f'in hate spam. And it ain't just his threads that he pollutes. He fills other people's threads with his same crap, too.
Why is it a big deal to you?? Don't read the threads and don't go to the links. Problem solved.
Edit: I really don't expect you to understand, since you don't support the concept of moderation in general.
Originally posted by dottewellYou're joking I hope; do you read the posts of slimjim??? Or cankersoremechanic??? Or FreakyKBH????? There isn't a bit of content in their and many others' posts in this forum. Get off your ridiculous high horse; this is a DEBATES FORUM ON AN INTERNET CHESS SITE!!! "The forums would be devalued" LMFAO!!!!!! How can trying to bring debate on American foreign policy "devalue" this asinine forum???? When you disagree with certain morons here, you're invariably "anti-American polesmokers" or some such garbage. Why don't you and sasquatch campaign for their bans??? Hypocrites.
Nothing selfish about it. His posts are of no value to anyone. Furthermore, if everyone did acted like him, the forums would be devalued.
That's one reason spamming is banned.
Some rules are worth breaking. This one isn't.
He can't see that, and he refuses to listen to reason. Does he hold these forums, and our intelligence, in such contempt?
A ...[text shortened]... k about the issues.
If that makes me a neo-Nazi in your book, perhaps you need a new book.
"Listen to reason"????? Are you kidding me??? READ the crap here!!! He tries to "hijack the forums" into talking about something important rather than the trash that usually dominates it. He does this in an annoying manner, but so what???? The purpose of the damn forum is to have debate about important topics. You people make me sick with this sanctiminous crap.