29 Jan 13
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Originally posted by Metal BrainTo state the obvious: Because a $2000 iPhone 5 sounds a lot less appealing than a $400 one.
Why isn't there a backlash against outsourcing?
http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2012-03-30/inside-apple-s-foxconn-factory.html#slide9
It's too easy to look the other way. The backlash you'll see is when people can't find jobs unless they work in similar conditions. And of course, you're starting to see that.
29 Jan 13
Originally posted by WoodPushConsider that a lot more people work selling and servicing accounts than ever would building the phones. Building the phones would be largely unskilled work, and low payed jobs even here.
To state the obvious: Because a $2000 iPhone 5 sounds a lot less appealing than a $400 one.
It's too easy to look the other way. The backlash you'll see is when people can't find jobs unless they work in similar conditions. And of course, you're starting to see that.
30 Jan 13
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Originally posted by Metal BrainDo you buy stuff that is made in China? Everyone has to now that we don not manufacture goods here. Even an ignoramus can see the whole global economy is about making a quick buck off of the imbalance of standard of living. The longer it goes the closer the standards will be around the world. Rock bottom!!! They will keep making money out of nothing to keep the people in the US fat and sassy for the time being but the bottom will fall out.
Why isn't there a backlash against outsourcing?
http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2012-03-30/inside-apple-s-foxconn-factory.html#slide9
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30 Jan 13
Originally posted by joe beyserSome people are paying the least they can (non-subs) to post on this forum, and haven't moved for over 900 days. Ring a bell? Economic realism clashes with philosophy. Realism wins. So we are voting with our actions for how things will go, more than with our words.
Do you buy stuff that is made in China? Even an ignoramus can see the whole global economy is about making a quick buck off of the imbalance of standard of living. The longer it goes the closer the standards will be around the world. Rock bottom!!! They will keep making money out of nothing to keep the people in the US fat and sassy for the time being but the bottom will fall out.
30 Jan 13
Originally posted by JS357Exactly!!! But I do my part on here as the forums are the heart of the RHP community. I try not to bog down the server playing chess for free, but they do offer this for free. Does it bother you that RHP does this? Or are you making a personal attack? Anyway people do like cheap.
Some people are paying the least they can (non-subs) to post on this forum, and haven't moved for over 900 days. Ring a bell? Economic realism clashes with philosophy. Realism wins. So we are voting with our actions for how things will go, more than with our words.
30 Jan 13
Originally posted by normbenignThe following estimates it takes 17 labor hours to manufacture an iPhone.
Consider that a lot more people work selling and servicing accounts than ever would building the phones. Building the phones would be largely unskilled work, and low payed jobs even here.
http://www.asymco.com/2012/02/22/the-iphone-manufacturing-cost-structure/
At US minimum wage, that would be $123 labor for the iPhone, versus the $30 it costs them in china.
That, of course, is only one of the cost benefits of production in china. Again, manufacturing in the US would drastically increase the cost of the iPhone.
30 Jan 13
Originally posted by WoodPushBased on your figures for cost of labour the difference in price would seem to be $93 rather than the $1600 you are claiming above. The cost of transport to the U.S. is reduced if it is being made there. It's quite possible the financial advantage is quite marginal - which means that it's not simply the cost of labour that is causing them to make it in China, but there are other factors possibly to do with the costs of setting up the factories - or problems with pollutants - or most likely of all the total absence of trade unions.
The following estimates it takes 17 labor hours to manufacture an iPhone.
http://www.asymco.com/2012/02/22/the-iphone-manufacturing-cost-structure/
At US minimum wage, that would be $123 labor for the iPhone, versus the $30 it costs them in china.
That, of course, is only one of the cost benefits of production in china. Again, manufacturing in the US would drastically increase the cost of the iPhone.
30 Jan 13
Originally posted by normbenignSo what...at least the jobs would be here.
Consider that a lot more people work selling and servicing accounts than ever would building the phones. Building the phones would be largely unskilled work, and low payed jobs even here.
Besides, a low paying job here is obviously a lot more than a low paying job in China. As it is right now, we seem to be outsourcing pollution to China as well and the government refused to address the problem until recently by claiming the smog was merely fog. Denial like that can only be a profit incentive.