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Originally posted by sjegBy sunbeds, do you mean the places where people get tans via artificial light? If so, I think they are a really bad idea. When I think of a solarium I think of a room that lets in lots of natural sunlight. If that's what you mean, then I think that is a really good idea. I'm sure there have been many studies done on sunbeds (tanning booths here in USA). At least here they often warn people on the news not to spend too much time in them because they claim that tanning booths increase skin cancer chances.
Just out of interest, who reckons they're harmless? Who thinks they're a really bad idea?
And has there been any conclusive study to support either side in this question that anyone knows of?
Originally posted by DelmerYes- sunbed = tanning booth.
By sunbeds, do you mean the places where people get tans via artificial light? If so, I think they are a really bad idea. When I think of a solarium I think of a room that lets in lots of natural sunlight. If that's what you mean, then I think that is a really good idea. I'm sure there have been many studies done on sunbeds (tanning booths here in USA). At le ...[text shortened]... end too much time in them because they claim that tanning booths increase skin cancer chances.
Solarium these days here means a place with sunbeds, I think. I'm not an expert.
And Devil's Advocat says: 'yes, they increase chances of skin cancer, but so does sunbathing, doesn't it?'
Originally posted by sjegYes, sunbathing does. But I'm not against either, just telling you what I've heard on TV. We heavy smokers don't worry much about getting cancer from sunbathing. I've never tried a sunbed, or sunbathing. I'd get bored in five seconds and start bouncing around.
Yes- sunbed = tanning booth.
Solarium these days here means a place with sunbeds, I think. I'm not an expert.
And Devil's Advocat says: 'yes, they increase chances of skin cancer, but so does sunbathing, doesn't it?'
Originally posted by sjegI was reading an article the other day about how tanning salons were thinking about banning customers under 14, and those under 17 would have to have a parent to attend and give permission for them to use the beds. What are your opinions on this?
Just out of interest, who reckons they're harmless? Who thinks they're a really bad idea?
And has there been any conclusive study to support either side in this question that anyone knows of?
Originally posted by Remora91You don't have my permission.
I was reading an article the other day about how tanning salons were thinking about banning customers under 14, and those under 17 would have to have a parent to attend and give permission for them to use the beds. What are your opinions on this?
Originally posted by DelmerThe idea of you lighting up a smoke on a sunbed is amusement enough for this morning.
Yes, sunbathing does. But I'm not against either, just telling you what I've heard on TV. We heavy smokers don't worry much about getting cancer from sunbathing. I've never tried a sunbed, or sunbathing. I'd get bored in five seconds and start bouncing around.
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Originally posted by Remora91They do that here too- but just simply no under-sixteens admitted, and the signature of a guardian for 16-17y.o.s.
I was reading an article the other day about how tanning salons were thinking about banning customers under 14, and those under 17 would have to have a parent to attend and give permission for them to use the beds. What are your opinions on this?
What about hard evidence for this? Is it like microwaving yourself? And is it much more risky than sunbathing?
On sunbathing, I think once you avoid getting burnt, you're fine. I often forego the suncream down on the Med, if I have a base tan. And I'm Irish, though my skin doesn't seem too typically Irish, if you see what I mean. I tan easily, so I'm pretty lucky there. There are fellow I know who would die after 10 minutes in the sun- like lobsters, they'd be.
Is the sunbed riskier? I don't think I'd ever use one, anyway.
Why this permission stuff, if it's safe anyway?
Originally posted by sjegThe conclusive study would be to recruit 'X' people, randomly place half in sun-rooms and half not, and measure to see if one group develops more skin cancer over their lifetime. I'm >99.999% sure that the conclusive study never has been and never will be done.
Just out of interest, who reckons they're harmless? Who thinks they're a really bad idea?
And has there been any conclusive study to support either side in this question that anyone knows of?
What you are left with is second-line evidence such as epidemiological studies that point to higher lifetime skin-cancer among those with higher sun-room use. Of course, maybe people who will develop skin cancer (regardless of exposure) also for some reason like to be brown. Correlation does not equal causation.
The same problem exists with smoking and cancer. We can't randomize people to smoke or not to smoke. The link between smoking and lung cancer is accepted as conclusive now but it took years and years and an overhwhelming amount of epidemiological evidence to establish.